From: ChrisTheS [stormsurge@stormsurge.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:41 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Errata (was: Unarmed Damage (was: Basic Question)) If someone would like to compile an unofficial errata sheet, I'll get it up on Storm Surge until such time as our official people here aren't too busy creating new gaming goodness for us :) -- ChrisTheS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heivilin, Jim" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:08 PM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Unarmed Damage (was: Basic Question) > If Eric's dates are correct it should be on > > http://www.biohazardgames.com/board-11-00.html > > > > Yup, that's it, the question is at the top and Greg posted the answer is > further down. > > http://www.biohazardgames.com/board/11-13-00.txt > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David R. Crowell [mailto:gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] > > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Basic Question > > You basicaly got it right, I have unarmed attacks do a base damage of > > Strength +1 courtesy of Greg on 10/30. There was a LOT of > > talk about this > > including some martial arts rules. It should all be in the > > archives on the Biohazard site. > > --dave > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Eric Ducreux > > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Basic Question > > > >Hi all > > > > I bought the players and moderator guides in the > > > >last week and I am > > > >beginning a campaign with my players in this sunday. The > > > >problem is that i > > > >can't find in the player's guide the Damage Rating of a > > > >Punch or a Kick. > > > >Someone can help me with this information? > > > >Thank you > > > >Wagner > > > > PS: sorry if the question is stupid. > > > > > > It is NOT a stupid question at all (o; > > > You are not the first to ask it, and never the last I guess > > >(I was one of > > > them, but I just register to the mailing list when the > > >debate started...) > > > > > > The debate on this was in November (13/11 if you look in > > > the archives - if there is some archives available). > > > > > > I do not know if FFP did as mentioned a official Errata for this. > > > However, I think the result was : > > > > > > >> Jerome Darmont wrote: > > > >>(Strength+1 for punches, Strength+2 for kicks IIRC), > > > > > > >Greg wrote: > > > >Kicks are a called shot - they're more difficult, in > > > >addition to doing more damage. > > > someone will correct me if I mistaken (o;{{ > > > Eric. > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: ChrisTheS [stormsurge@stormsurge.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:30 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Something else.. Count me in. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Ducreux" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 6:14 AM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Something else.. > Hello, > > I noticed pretty *active* peoples on the ML, and I was wondering if some > would be interesting by writing a *story by mail* (I do not know how to > call it in English). > > I explain : I use to create scenario by mail with some friends of the SdEN > French RPG Network, every person in the project have a passing order and > write about 10 lines. The aim being to write a scenario. > Someone write 10 lines and send the what is already written to someone > else. When the last one in the project has finished, the story is published > on the Internet. > > Even if this scenario is not playable, the ideas it contains may be used by > some in their campaign. > > Anybody interested ?? (o; > > Eric. > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Eric Ducreux [educreux@uk.noha-systems.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 6:07 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... Hello folks, During the last few weeks, as most of you noticed, this population of this ML increased dramatically (o; It is very good news for the game... BUT I also noticed that some "early members" of the ML and great contributors of the Undercurrent are not participating to the debates anymore... I do not know if it is related )o: With my own experience of ML (I one of the early member of the French SdEN RPG Network which count almost 200 members now), I would like to suggest the creation of a second ML : blue_planet_noise@.... where some debate which are not fully BP related could be discuss (o: (ie : A-Team, D20... and other off topics and jokes of all sorts) I am not against those debates at all !!! They are a part of the great atmosphere reigning in the ML, but it could allow some members to not be forced to DEAL with this (o; Eric. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jeb Boyt [jeboyt@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:19 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... ----Original Message Follows---- From: Eric Ducreux Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:06:54 +0000 I would like to suggest the creation of a second ML : blue_planet_noise@.... where some debate which are not fully BP related could be discuss (o: (ie : A-Team, D20... and other off topics and jokes of all sorts) ================================= Rather than creating a second mailing list, I will just recommend that people check out the forums at www.RPG.net and www.gamingoutpost.com where all manner of gaming related topics are discussed. Several active participants in the Blue Planet ML also participate in these forums. Jeb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Leif Magnar Kjønnøy [leifmk@pvv.ntnu.no] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 10:35 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Blue Planet rpg books On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Greg Benage wrote: > After the cetacean book Have y'all settled on a title for this yet? How about "Fin Folio"? (ducks and runs away) *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: kabael@softhome.net Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:27 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... > I am not against those debates at all !!! > They are a part of the great atmosphere reigning in the ML, but it could > allow some members to not be forced to DEAL with this (o; The problem is, creating an email list for off-topic discussion is kind of self-defeating. I've seen an off-topic forum work, but that was only when it was part of a group of forums that all had a very focused direction. While I'm sure you would have guessed my opinion of off-topic discussion from my involvement in it, I'm honestly of the opinion that some off-topic discussion is part-and-parcel with not just an email list, but conversations in general, and should be accepted as such. The Blue Planet email list is _far_ from so off-topic that conversations are stifled and strangled, nor did the quick burst of off-topic comments last for more than a few days. The topics flared up and then died, before anyone actually complained. So I don't see that there is anything to worry about, let alone take action against. Things like this will happen, and will continue to happen. I see nothing wrong with that. Derek Guder - kabael@softhome.net - ICQ# 24193592 Opinionated reviewer extraordinaire *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Malcolm Craig [malcolmcraig@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:10 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... Derek wrote: >While I'm sure you would have guessed my opinion of off-topic discussion >from my involvement in it, I'm honestly of the opinion that some off-topic >discussion is part-and-parcel with not just an email list, but >conversations in general, and should be accepted as such. Of course such discussion is part and parcel of the mailing list. Diverse views, opinions and threads are what makes it fun. However, I think it was the sheer volume of messages on certain topics which caused a bit of concern (certainly on my part!). >The Blue Planet email list is _far_ from so off-topic that conversations >are stifled and strangled, nor did the quick burst of off-topic comments >last for more than a few days. The topics flared up and then died, before >anyone actually complained. So I don't see that there is anything to worry >about, let alone take action against. I wouldn't say I complained, it was more of an observation at first. However, coming back to find a mountain of messages on off topic threads was a bit of shock. I don't really take part in any other mailing lists, so the BP list is my only real experience of it. It's a bit dispiriting trawling through a mountain of messages just in case there's anything (personally) interesting concealed within. Cheers Malcolm _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Malcolm Craig [malcolmcraig@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:15 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Blue Planet rpg books Alternatively, the "Dorsal Document". (retreats rapidly to a place of safety). >From: Leif Magnar Kjønnøy >Reply-To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com >To: >Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Blue Planet rpg books >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:35:04 +0100 (CET) > > >On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Greg Benage wrote: > > > After the cetacean book > >Have y'all settled on a title for this yet? How about "Fin Folio"? > >(ducks and runs away) > > >*************************************************************************** >To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com >with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Gareth Hanrahan [hanrahag@iol.ie] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:26 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... > I wouldn't say I complained, it was more of an observation at first. > However, coming back to find a mountain of messages on off topic threads was > a bit of shock. I don't really take part in any other mailing lists, so the > BP list is my only real experience of it. BP is pathologically on-topic compared to most mailing lists. Things are nowhere near the point where action should be taken. (In-joke: Malcolm, track down David Donachie and ask him to use the words "on-topic" and "L5R-UK mailing list" in the same sentence.) > Malcolm Gar http://www.irishgaming.com/warpcon http://chrysanthemumRoad.tripod.com - L5R fansite http://www.commcore.f2s.com/oceanview - Blue Planet fansite *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Malcolm Craig [malcolmcraig@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:33 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... Gareth wrote: >(In-joke: Malcolm, track down David Donachie and ask him to use the words >"on-topic" and "L5R-UK mailing list" in the same sentence.) Ok, I'll ask him on Sunday. I'm sure he'll wonder where I got it from. Cheers Malcolm _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: kabael@softhome.net Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 3:57 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... > Of course such discussion is part and parcel of the mailing list. Diverse > views, opinions and threads are what makes it fun. However, I think it was > the sheer volume of messages on certain topics which caused a bit of concern > (certainly on my part!). Sheer volume? Wow, I must just have gotten hardened against email. I'm surprised when I _don't_ recieve at least 100-200 messages a day. :) > I wouldn't say I complained, it was more of an observation at first. > However, coming back to find a mountain of messages on off topic threads was > a bit of shock. I don't really take part in any other mailing lists, so the > BP list is my only real experience of it. It's a bit dispiriting trawling > through a mountain of messages just in case there's anything (personally) > interesting concealed within. I guess I'm just used to having to go through about half of my email to find something that is actually interesting or relevant. Derek Guder - kabael@softhome.net - ICQ# 24193592 Opinionated reviewer extraordinaire *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Brian_Ferrenz@americanchemistry.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 4:30 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... Bully! =B= It's a bit dispiriting trawling through a mountain of messages just in case there's anything (personally) interesting concealed within. Cheers Malcolm *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Andy Wills [andywills@stormsurge.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 6:44 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Errata (was: Unarmed Damage (was: Basic Question)) I'm leaving on vacation tomorrow, so I can't go find this information myself. I think it should include: 1) The character creation # of packages question. 2) The punch / kick damage question. 3) The timeline bit that just came up. 4) Maybe the Greg Benage's unofficial cinematic rules. I thought about doing this recently, but I've been busy. Okay, now my two bits about off-topic noise hidden within an on-topic message so I don't feel guilty about contributing to it: I don't like it at all. Not on mailing lists. Old Blue Planet mailing list suited me just fine. I'm about to leave on vacation, and I'm unsubscribing for that time period instead of letting the messages pile up(and read them when I get back) because there's been too much junk floating around for my poor modem to take. So I might miss something(que horror!). And, yes, if it gets significantly worse permanently, I'll unsubscribe. On the positive side, we've also had more on-topic discussion, although I had to sift through to get to it. Here is my suggestion for off-topic posts: keep it to one layer. That is, the occasional off-topic reply is okay, but don't reply to an already off-topic message. And, yes, my reaction is probably because I have a slow modem and haven't had much time to sort through off-topic banter recently. Andy *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: ChrisTheS [stormsurge@stormsurge.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:09 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... I for one don't have a problem with off-topic discussions. I keep all my ML messages in a separate folder, so any topic that I'm really not interested in, I just select all the messages on that topic in my inbox, transfer them to my BPML folder, and if I feel interested in that topic later I'll go read them. Admittedly, sometimes getting 50-something messages a day (I'm on a heck of a lot of mailing lists) is a tad annoying, but for the most part I'm glad to hear what people have to say on virtually any subject. --ChrisTheS ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... > > > I am not against those debates at all !!! > > They are a part of the great atmosphere reigning in the ML, but it could > > allow some members to not be forced to DEAL with this (o; > > The problem is, creating an email list for off-topic discussion is kind of > self-defeating. I've seen an off-topic forum work, but that was only when > it was part of a group of forums that all had a very focused direction. > > While I'm sure you would have guessed my opinion of off-topic discussion > from my involvement in it, I'm honestly of the opinion that some off-topic > discussion is part-and-parcel with not just an email list, but > conversations in general, and should be accepted as such. > > The Blue Planet email list is _far_ from so off-topic that conversations > are stifled and strangled, nor did the quick burst of off-topic comments > last for more than a few days. The topics flared up and then died, before > anyone actually complained. So I don't see that there is anything to worry > about, let alone take action against. > > Things like this will happen, and will continue to happen. I see nothing > wrong with that. > > Derek Guder - kabael@softhome.net - ICQ# 24193592 > > Opinionated reviewer extraordinaire > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: David R. Crowell [gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 6:50 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... >where some debate > which are not fully BP related could be discuss (o: (ie : A-Team, D20... > and other off topics and jokes of all sorts) D20 at least is/was on topic for the lsit at least in the context of game design. One of the nice things about this list is that we have the ear of the game designers. I am sure that it is helpful to them to know what their market do and do not like about their game design and others. As for the A Tean, part of that discussion was also on topic, description of A-Team characters as they might be rewritten as BP characters, and my own mention of A-Team as a possible archetype for a Player Character group. As for the signal to noise ratio, try Fading Suns, Starwars RPG, TheForge, or several other hobby and other mailing lists I could name. This list is miraculously on topic. Anyway most computers have a key. And of course there is always the Eternal Champion list that seems mostly to consist of SPAM (from off list)and complaints about Spam. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.