From: Malcolm Craig [malcolmcraig@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:12 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... Brian wrote: >Bully! >=B= Er...what is this meant to mean? Cheers Malcolm PS I've just realised that my original comments seem to have generated a small off-topic discussion. Oh the irony! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Stephen Mutka [dreadmook@netzero.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:19 PM To: Blue Planet List Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - GEO Prime Hey all, There's a mention of an underwater research base called GEO Prime near the Zion Islands, but I don't see it on the map in the MG. Is there any more official information somewhere that I missed? Thanks, Steve Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Kintaro Oe [kabael@SoftHome.net] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:33 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - off topic off topicness >I've just realised that my original comments seem to have generated a >small off-topic discussion. Oh the irony! That completely depends on your definition of "off topic." Since we're still generally talking about what the accepted level of deviation on the Blue Planet list should be, I think it's quite on topic ;) - kabael - Kintaro Oe - Derek the Guder - kabael@softhome.net - ICQ# 24193592 the McGuffin Group - the End Times - RPG Action - the Thirteenth Legion Cabos; resonatos with thermos rather than pluto. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: David R. Crowell [gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:01 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - off topic off topicness YAK Perhaps if we were to add the word "yak" to the subject headers of our off-topic messages so people would know they were off topic. Mail programs could even be set to delete any message with "yak" in the subject line for those who don't want to be bothered with them. Somebody should give the Aborigines uplifted Giant Squid to play with. Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket. > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Eric Ducreux [educreux@uk.noha-systems.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:18 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - off topic off topicness YAK >Perhaps if we were to add the word "yak" to the subject headers of our >off-topic messages so people would know they were off topic. Mail programs >could even be set to delete any message with "yak" in the subject line for >those who don't want to be bothered with them. Yep (o; So everybody could live happy ever after (o; >Somebody should give the Aborigines uplifted Giant Squid to play with. Yeah, >yeah, that's the ticket. What about some 50m long Plate Amour Sharks ?? (got them in Polaris, very funny creatures (o;{{{) Eric. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Wagner utiel [utiel@df.ufscar.br] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 6:52 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions As a sugestions for the members of the list we can send to the list some new professional packages, adventures plots, house rules, possible futures for the Blue Planet set, etc. With this we will help the news GM. The discussion about a D20 conversion or not is relevant, but not essencialy necessary. I GM GURPS for 10 years in many different sets and I can GM the Synergy System of Blue Planet in many differents sets too. I don't care if a adventure that I GM is in the "pure" BP sense. What I want is that my players came to play. If they love Blade Runner or CP2020 I can create a plot with some element of Blue Planet but with the atmosphere of Blade Runner. The main problem is: we want players playing Blue Planet and learn the system in many context, or we want only players with want to play in the Poisedon world. In this aspect is a good idea to the Bioharzard peoples create a little booklet as the GURPS LITE or Instant FUZION. If many people know and use the system, the BP RPG will gain fans from many others RPGs. The D20 system is only a variation of the CyberPunk 2020 system with a big company selling it. In some years the boom will stop and the players will look again for others systems. Wagner *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: David R. Crowell [gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:05 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions ----- Original Message ----- From: Wagner utiel > As a sugestions for the members of the list we can send to the list > some new professional packages, adventures plots, house rules, possible > futures for the Blue Planet set, etc. With this we will help the news > GM. This could also provide information for Undercurrents, a publication I would dearly love to see again, even if only as an e-zine. I am working (slowly, my life is very busy) on some new creatures, most of which are interesting, perhaps useful in some way, but not intended as "monsters" in the usual rpg sense of that word. > I don't care if a adventure that I GM is in the "pure" BP sense. What I > want is that my players came to play. If they love Blade Runner or > CP2020 I can create a plot with some element of Blue Planet but with the > atmosphere of Blade Runner. A very good point. The BP setting is flexible enough to accomodate many styles of game. > good idea to the Bioharzard peoples create a little booklet as the GURPS > LITE or Instant FUZION. If many people know and use the system, the BP > RPG will gain fans from many others RPGs. I agree. It would also make it easier for new players and GMs to learn the rules and Synergy system. Perhaps this could be bundd with pregenerated characters and a brief adventure. One that would feature some skills uses, a comabat or two, and a chance to see some of Posiedon from an in character perspective. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:02 AM To: 'list, blue planet' Subject: [FWD] Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... > -----Original Message----- > From: "Poh Tun Kai" > To: > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:07:31 -0500 > > > I also noticed that some "early members" of the ML and > great contributors > > of the Undercurrent are not participating to the debates > anymore... I do > > not know if it is related )o: > > Hey, I'm still around, lurking. I just have a full-time job now. > Theoretically, the new BPv1 campaign I'll be running will give me some > writing inspiration in a few weeks, but in general I just > don't have the > time to participate fully. > > Also, I don't have any v2 books, so I don't feel like > everything on the ML > is related to the BP I know... > > Kai Poh > Malaysian Lagomorph > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:02 AM To: 'list, blue planet' Subject: [FWD] OT Messages (was Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Errata ) > -----Original Message----- > From: "Wil" > To: > Subject: OT Messages (was Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Errata ) > Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:16:15 -0800 > > One suggestion would be to: > > 1) Mark OT messages with [OT] or something similar. > > 2) Rename threads (such as I just did). > > 3) Trim replies! I am used to having to do so on the DP9 > mailing lists > because it sometimes overwhelms the server if people let one > line replies > followed by three pages of previous messages fly freely. > > Both of these are common to Usenet and various web forums, > and can help to > keep things straight. > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:03 AM To: 'list, blue planet' Subject: [FWD] Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Blue Planet rpg books > -----Original Message----- > From: "Poh Tun Kai" > To: > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Blue Planet rpg books > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:25:22 -0500 > > Malcolm proposed the cetacean book be called: > > Alternatively, the "Dorsal Document". (retreats rapidly to > a place of > > safety). > > Shai Dorsal! > > Kai Poh > Malaysian Lagomorph > > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: David R. Crowell [gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:27 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [FWD] Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... > > > > Also, I don't have any v2 books, so I don't feel like > > everything on the ML > > is related to the BP I know... > > > > Kai Poh > > Malaysian Lagomorph > > I have both versions so go ahead and post 1st ed stuff, I'll convert what I need. Hopefully we can have more adventure hooks and world building which are essentially rules-less. Good to know you're still around and with us. --dave *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:19 AM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... > -----Original Message----- > From: Gareth Hanrahan [mailto:hanrahag@iol.ie] > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Question of noise... > > > I wouldn't say I complained, it was more of an observation at first. > > BP list is my only real experience of it. > > BP is pathologically on-topic compared to most mailing lists. > Things are nowhere near the point where action should be taken. > I'd like to second Gar's comments. I've been on quite a few mailing lists over the years. I'm on the Deadlands list now which IIRC has nearly 500 members. The volume of message traffic was in excess of a hundred messages a day on the slow days. Eventually a significant portion of those became OT and responses to OT. So much so that they started an OT (off-topic) list. Volume on the main list fell significantly and went back to being (mainly) on topic. The OT list, however, has been an interesting experience. It seems less constrained to civil behavior and while this is occasionally amusing, it's generally a waste of resources. Looking at the subscribers list it shows we've got 176 people on the list. The last time I looked (which admittedly was quite awhile ago) we had between 140 and 150, so I wouldn't exactly use the term *explosion* to describe the rise. However it is heartening to see more people interested in Blue Planet. So, to all the new people we have, Welcome. Come on in, the water's fine. To the oldsters who've been here awhile, sit back and see what interesting ideas the new people bring. To everybody, don't feel constrained on what to discuss whether it's BP related or not. As I've said before our only *rule* is to be polite to one another. And remember, if you don't like a message or don't want to read it (including this one even! ), we all know where the delete key is. Jim Jim Heivilin, Webmaster Biohazard Games http://www.biohazardgames.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Robert N. Emerson [cudraoi@uswest.net] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:05 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [YAK] [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions Just curious, As a long time gamer, of systems both around and dead, and as someone who playtested 3e D&D (hence d20) - how can a system who has been around longer, be based off of a system who is younger? Minor diviations in the rules, inversion of AC, et al, but it is still the rules of AD&D/D&D - more so, if anything, a lot of the changes came out of Alternity as well. I've been gaming for 21 years now, started with lil' brown books with Gygax's name and others, and I've seen, played, most systems and they all have one thing incommon - dice, but does that make them a variation of knucklebones? Craps? Yes, I'm reaching, but I just can't see CP2020 being a progenator for d20. Right now I play, as well as run, a few systems: I'm about to run a GURPS Traveller game, my first Blue Planet session is this weekend, I'm running Star Wars (d20), playing in a 3e D&D game (our playtest of Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil), and I'm working on products for Sword and Sorcery Studios and Necromancer Games (my first published credit is with SSS - the Tear of Mormo in the major artifacts is mine, not the art though; of course. Personally I find Blue Planet, easily, one of the better written products in the past few years - it ranks up there, for me, with Dark*Matter in scope, feel of the setting, and layout. Anyhow, sorry for the straying of topic, but I felt I had to ask the question. Thanks, Robert N. Emerson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wagner utiel" To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:51 AM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions > As a sugestions for the members of the list we can send to the list > some new professional packages, adventures plots, house rules, possible > futures for the Blue Planet set, etc. With this we will help the news > GM. > The discussion about a D20 conversion or not is relevant, but not > essencialy necessary. I GM GURPS for 10 years in many different sets and > I can GM the Synergy System of Blue Planet in many differents sets too. > I don't care if a adventure that I GM is in the "pure" BP sense. What I > want is that my players came to play. If they love Blade Runner or > CP2020 I can create a plot with some element of Blue Planet but with the > atmosphere of Blade Runner. The main problem is: we want players playing > Blue Planet and learn the system in many context, or we want only > players with want to play in the Poisedon world. In this aspect is a > good idea to the Bioharzard peoples create a little booklet as the GURPS > LITE or Instant FUZION. If many people know and use the system, the BP > RPG will gain fans from many others RPGs. The D20 system is only a > variation of the CyberPunk 2020 system with a big company selling it. In > some years the boom will stop and the players will look again for others > systems. > > Wagner > > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Robert N. Emerson [cudraoi@uswest.net] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:09 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions Now on this I concure, I'm doing my best to spread word of the game around Boise, which although not a large city it does have a vocal - on and off-line - gaming community and I work closely with the various shop managers around the valley - mainly through my work for White Wolf, but more so just because I like to chit-chat gaming. The GURPS Lite was a real aid at one point in time when I wanted to run, intro, my players to GURPS - a couple of them are fledgeling gamers who I've introduced to the hobby. I'll have to check out Instant FUZION though, a link please? Robert N. Emerson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wagner utiel" To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:51 AM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions >The main problem is: we want players playing > Blue Planet and learn the system in many context, or we want only > players with want to play in the Poisedon world. In this aspect is a > good idea to the Bioharzard peoples create a little booklet as the GURPS > LITE or Instant FUZION. If many people know and use the system, the BP > RPG will gain fans from many others RPGs. > > Wagner > > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jeb Boyt [jeboyt@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:27 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions I also agree with these suggestions. A Synergy Lite intro and/or quickstart guides to Synergy and Poseidon would be very useful. I have found the quickstart guides for Feng Shui immensely useful. When new players have shown up, I hand them the guides for character generation and the combat. The guides help to speed character generation, and answer all of the basic questions on how combat works. As a GM, I reference the combat guide whenever I need a quick reminder or clarification on the rules because the four page guide is much easier to use than the rulebook. Jeb ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Robert N. Emerson" Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:08:55 -0700 Now on this I concure, The GURPS Lite was a real aid at one point in time when I wanted to run, intro, my players to GURPS - a couple of them are fledgeling gamers who I've introduced to the hobby. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wagner utiel" Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:51 AM >The main problem is: we want players playing > Blue Planet and learn the system in many context, or we want only > players with want to play in the Poisedon world. In this aspect is a good idea to the Bioharzard peoples create a little booklet as the GURPS LITE or Instant FUZION. If many people know and use the system, the BP RPG will gain fans from many others RPGs. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Wagner utiel [utiel@df.ufscar.br] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:10 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions The Fuzion system is free and universal system. It is one that have a good internet support. You can find it in: www.meta-earth.com there you will find many plug-ins as: magic, psionics, vehicle, aliens, etc.. The system was a mix of Hero System and the Talsorian (CP2020) system and was created by the two companies. About the D20. The basic rules system is Attribute bonus + skill level + 1D20 against a target number. In the CP2020 you have this but with a 1D10 and in the Fuzion system you have the option to use 3D6. The second and the new edition of D&D is completely differente. I heard that many people dislike this fact. This new edition is skill based. The old AD&D was Attribute based. Now you have feats that is just another name to advantages of GURPS or Talents of FUZION. If you played AD&D since the first edition (notethat Ii played only the second edition and the new) you will certanly observe the big difference in the class concept, in the combat concept, etc.. I like very much the D&D 3 but it is not innovative and in my opnion he take much of its concept in the talsorian system. The D20 system is no longer than CP2020 or Fuzion. The first D&D and the second edition AD&D yes, but the D20 no. And like i said there is very little to compare the AD&D 2nd with D20. But a respect your opnion and maybe i am wrong. Wagner "Robert N. Emerson" wrote: > Now on this I concure, > > I'm doing my best to spread word of the game around Boise, which > although not a large city it does have a vocal - on and off-line - gaming > community and I work closely with the various shop managers around the > valley - mainly through my work for White Wolf, but more so just because I > like to chit-chat gaming. > > The GURPS Lite was a real aid at one point in time when I wanted to run, > intro, my players to GURPS - a couple of them are fledgeling gamers who I've > introduced to the hobby. > > I'll have to check out Instant FUZION though, a link please? > > Robert N. Emerson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wagner utiel" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:51 AM > Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions > > >The main problem is: we want players playing > > Blue Planet and learn the system in many context, or we want only > > players with want to play in the Poisedon world. In this aspect is a > > good idea to the Bioharzard peoples create a little booklet as the GURPS > > LITE or Instant FUZION. If many people know and use the system, the BP > > RPG will gain fans from many others RPGs. > > > > Wagner > > > > > > > *************************************************************************** > > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > > > > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Paul Lesack [lesack@interchange.ubc.ca] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:35 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - On topicness YAK! David R. Crowell wrote: > > Somebody should give the Aborigines uplifted Giant Squid to play with. Yesterday, on the evening news, I saw an article about a giant squid. The Australians captured an intact specimen; it was dead, but apparently not particularly decomposed. It was also huge; pictures are better than words: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/squid010207.html Paul *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Greg Benage [gbenage@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:36 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeb Boyt" To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions > I also agree with these suggestions. A Synergy Lite intro and/or quickstart > guides to Synergy and Poseidon would be very useful. I've converted the first chapter of the Player's Guide to .pdf and it should be on the bpv2.com site later today. Should provide a useful intro to the game. Greg Benage FFG *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Malcolm Craig [malcolmcraig@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:47 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Giant Squid (was On topicness YAK!) Paul wrote: >Yesterday, on the evening news, I saw an article about a giant squid. >The Australians captured an intact specimen; it was dead, but apparently >not particularly decomposed. > >It was also huge; pictures are better than words: > >http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/squid010207.html > Now that is impressive. Makes you think what Polypods in BP are like. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Malcolm Craig [malcolmcraig@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:59 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions Wagner wrote: >What I >want is that my players came to play. If they love Blade Runner or >CP2020 I can create a plot with some element of Blue Planet but with the >atmosphere of Blade Runner. The main problem is: we want players playing >Blue Planet and learn the system in many context, or we want only >players with want to play in the Poisedon world. In this aspect is a >good idea to the Bioharzard peoples create a little booklet as the GURPS >LITE or Instant FUZION. If many people know and use the system, the BP >RPG will gain fans from many others RPGs. The D20 system is only a >variation of the CyberPunk 2020 system with a big company selling it. In >some years the boom will stop and the players will look again for others >systems. Great. I always thought that Haven and Kingston made great settings for dark cyberpunk, Bladerunner-esque adventures. Thats one of the great things about BP is that the setting is so rich that is can be moulded to suit any style of play or any preference for mood. Dark/light, hope/despair, etc, etc, etc. As a final note about my off topic comments, I've been roleplaying for fifteen years now but it's only the BP mailing list that I actively participate in (the only other one I subscribe to is the 2300AD Tech list). I'm not really an 'internet person', in that I don't know the jargon, icons, what is and what isn't a lot of off-topic discussion, etc. Not having the range of internet experience that others on the list might have obviously makes me see things in a different way, hence the entire off-topic debate. For me it was a lot of off topic chat, for others it's obviously a laughably small amount of OT discussion. I do love the variety of opinion, standpoint and experience that we share on the list and I hope that this continues to grow and grow as BP reaches a wider audience. It is my hope that any opinions I have expressed may be taken as such, merely personal opinions, and that we can continue to share this friendly, interesting forum for debate and discussion. And chat about the A-Team. My next campaign is going to be based around 'Streethawk'. Only on jetskis. Cheers Malcolm _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Ml10@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:49 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions BTW, thanks for telling about the new web site address. Mike Z In a message dated Thu, 8 Feb 2001 2:37:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Greg Benage" writes: << ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeb Boyt" To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions > I also agree with these suggestions. A Synergy Lite intro and/or quickstart > guides to Synergy and Poseidon would be very useful. I've converted the first chapter of the Player's Guide to .pdf and it should be on the bpv2.com site later today. Should provide a useful intro to the game. Greg Benage FFG *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. >> *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Andrew Ragland [araglan@us.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:07 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions FASA used to put out a demo kit for Earthdawn. It consisted of a short adventure, that could be run in two to three hours; pregenerated character sheets, complete with stats, background, description, gear, etc.; player handouts, such as crudely drawn maps; all printed on Skytone imitation parchment paper, with nice artwork and borders borrowed from the product line. It came in a snazzy purple folder with a signup sheet, a couple of window posters and a flyer suitable for photocopying, so that the store could advertise the upcoming demo. I used this demo kit numerous times, to demo Earthdawn both at gaming stores and at conventions, and generated a lot of interest in the game. Unfortunately, apparently I was one of the few people who actually used the demo kit, as Earthdawn didn't survive as a commercially viable product (which is another topic for another soapbox, as I believe poor marketing and bad management were partly to blame). However, such a demo kit, with a prepackaged adventure and stuff, would be useful for stores and enthusiastic GMs to introduce Blue Planet to the gaming world. Ship it with a couple of posters or a CD-ROM or a gaming book from Fantasy Flight that isn't selling well to be given away as prizes, and you have an instant tournament for a convention. Worked for me, anyway. Andrew Ragland Information Hunter/Gatherer: Explorer, Mapmaker, Guide araglan@us.ibm.com t/l 348-6665 ph (847) 240-6665 Skytel 1731111 "It is our choices ... that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." -- A. Dumbledore "Jeb Boyt" @lists.ient.com on 02/08/2001 11:26:58 AM Please respond to blue_planet@lists.ient.com Sent by: owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com cc: Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions I also agree with these suggestions. A Synergy Lite intro and/or quickstart guides to Synergy and Poseidon would be very useful. I have found the quickstart guides for Feng Shui immensely useful. When new players have shown up, I hand them the guides for character generation and the combat. The guides help to speed character generation, and answer all of the basic questions on how combat works. As a GM, I reference the combat guide whenever I need a quick reminder or clarification on the rules because the four page guide is much easier to use than the rulebook. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Andrew Ragland [araglan@us.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:15 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions Bless your heart, Greg, and other parts too :). I was thinking of asking for some bits and pieces in PDF format for my homeschoolers' campaign, to save me cracking the spines of my books photocopying, but then decided it would be a lot of bother and I didn't want to annoy the developers. Andrew Ragland Information Hunter/Gatherer: Explorer, Mapmaker, Guide araglan@us.ibm.com t/l 348-6665 ph (847) 240-6665 Skytel 1731111 "It is our choices ... that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." -- A. Dumbledore "Greg Benage" @lists.ient.com on 02/08/2001 03:36:19 PM Please respond to blue_planet@lists.ient.com Sent by: owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com To: cc: Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeb Boyt" To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sugestions > I also agree with these suggestions. A Synergy Lite intro and/or quickstart > guides to Synergy and Poseidon would be very useful. I've converted the first chapter of the Player's Guide to .pdf and it should be on the bpv2.com site later today. Should provide a useful intro to the game. Greg Benage FFG *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Shannon Wiley [shannonwiley@home.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:11 PM To: Blue Planet Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - BP Lite and getting people involved. Okay, so I've been working on this for the last couple days, and all the discussion on the list today about BP Lite and introducing others to the system prompted me to post. I'm not actually doing a Synergy-Lite, per se. Rather, I'm converting Legend of the Five Rings to run under the Synergy system, while still retaining the feel of Five Rings. It's coming along quite well, and the 'basic' conversion rules are complete. Now I just have to go through and examine all the Edges/Hindrances and School Techniques and convert them. I'm doing this, because, while the L5R system works well, Synergy is a bit simpler, and more versatile. (congratulations on this, BTW, Greg, Jeff, Jim, Jason and everyone who's worked on this. The conversion hasn't been that difficult (The systems are more similar than one might first believe). Once I've got everything worked out, I'll be posting them on the web (I'll post the URL here when I'm done). It's a very informal document, aimed at teaching the L5R player the nuts and bolts of the Synergy system. While it is, technically, BP-Lite, it has a specific conversion in mind. Oh, and if any of the Biohazard/Fantasy Flight feel that this constitutes a violation of their copyright, let me know and I will, of course, remove the item (There. Obligatory Legalese is complete). Shannon shannonwiley@home.com