From: Christopher Gribbon [c.gribbon@dundee.ac.uk] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 10:32 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sciences in BP *** *** SPOILER WARNING! *** *** > I don't know if this discussion was done in the past, but I'm interested in yours opinions >about some topics: > > - about the Artificial Intelligence in the Blue Planet setting, Well - theoretically it doesn't exist: but see some of the "Access Denied" story seeds in the GM book about Dyffedd >- about the genetic determinism in BP, i.e. change X per Y and you will obtain Z. Er - I'm not sure what you're asking here... If you're asking about crossbreeding between, for example, a Cat hybrid and a Squid Aquaform; what would the child be like? Then I don't think it's been done yet. It might be an interesting thing to consider. The Aquaform traits are X-linked dominant, so they will be passed down to both male and femals children normally (though crossbreeding with Unmodified Humans would produce "carrier" females who could potentially have "unmodified" children) I don't know how the other "Genies" work - I don't think it's been specicifed. If they were also X-linked dominant (which is quite likely), then male children would be the same as their mother, while girls would be either a "one-or-the-other", have some traits of both, or (again, more likely) would be non-viable and would die prenatally. >- about the others sciences as physics in the setting of BP. I don't think there have been any huge breakthroughs in physics (in the way there obviously have been in Biology and Genetics) - though fusion now works, and I'm sure studying the wormhole has given a lot of physicists both wet dreams and nightmares all at once. Still - I'm a Biologist, so maybe *my* prejudices are showing through. > My academic formation is in physics and I feel, when I was reading the BP, that >my area was very underestimate. Well - I didn't understand the physics involved at all - so don't worry about it. Christopher Gribbon Vision Research Laboratories Medical Sciences Institute University of Dundee Dundee DD1 5EH UK (01382) 344 229 ____________________________________________________________________ "A scientist is meant to be disinterested, pure; his ambition merely to descry the cement of the universe. He isn't meant to use it to start laying his own patio!" - WILL SELF, The Quantity Theory of Insanity *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Utiel [utiel@df.ufscar.br] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:08 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Sciences in BP I don’t know if this discussion was done in the past, but I’m interested in yours opinions about some topics: - about the Artificial Intelligence in the Blue Planet setting, - about the genetic determinism in BP, i.e. change X per Y and you will obtain Z. - about the others sciences as physics in the setting of BP. My academic formation is in physics and I feel, when I was reading the BP, that my area was very underestimate. Wagner From: Justin Bacon [triad@prairie.lakes.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:42 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - 229 Messages?! In less than a week?! Have you people all gone mad?! Not that I'm objecting, or anything, but... Have you all gone mad?! JB *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Shannon Wiley [shannonwiley@home.com] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 1:07 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - 229 Messages?! Hi. I'm Shannon, and I'm a BP Listservaholic. > Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - 229 Messages?! > In less than a week?! Have you people all gone mad?! > Not that I'm objecting, or anything, but... > Have you all gone mad?! > JB > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Atti2dboy@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 1:27 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - 229 Messages?! If not mad, at least slightly irritated. ;-) One of these weeks I'll plop down in fron of my copmuter and send out some NPC sketches. If I'm real ambitious maybe some adventure seeds. Rich, The Not So Able Lurker In a message dated 2/11/01 10:04:01 AM, triad@prairie.lakes.com writes: >In less than a week?! Have you people all gone mad?! > >Not that I'm objecting, or anything, but... > >Have you all gone mad?! *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: kabael@softhome.net Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 1:39 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - 229 Messages?! > In less than a week?! Have you people all gone mad?! > > Not that I'm objecting, or anything, but... > > Have you all gone mad?! Now now, Mr. Bacon, I usually get that many messages every 2 days or so. And my mail volume has dropped dramatically since I unsubbed from all the various World of Darkness lists and didn't even realize it :) Derek Guder - kabael@softhome.net - ICQ# 24193592 Opinionated reviewer extraordinaire *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Sir Charles [chalz@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 2:45 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - ATTN: Important People - Error/Typo Follow Up Flag: Follow up Flag Status: Flagged Okie dokie. On page 170 of the Blue Planet(v2) Player's Guide, 2000 printing, top-right column, it is said: They have nictating membranes, sealing nostrils.... This should read 'nictitating'. While some gaming sites etc will say 'nictating', university sites and people with PhD's say 'nictitating'. I'm more inclined towards the latter *chuckles* Thanks. --Charles **** If nothing else, you can post 'em here. Jeff, Jim, Jason and Greg all hang out here on the list. If there's something that really just irks you post it here. They'll read it and either get back to you, or file the suggestion away for future reference. Shannon shannonwiley@home.com ** *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Troy Gustavel [troy_nevermore@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:39 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - 229 Messages?! > > In less than a week?! Have you people all gone mad?! > > > > Not that I'm objecting, or anything, but... > > > > Have you all gone mad?! If you think this is bad you should check out the RPG-Create list with yahoo groups, last month they had more than 1900 posts, thats close to 500 posts a week ===== Troy Gustavel 5825 Bolender Rd. Akron, OH 44319 (330)882 5468 Troy_Nevermore@Yahoo.com "Once upon a midnight dreary..." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Dr Ian McDonald [ian.mcdonald@iname.com] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 4:58 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - premise This whole discussion reminds me of Ryan Dancey's comment that one of the reasons for D&D's success is that it has a "core narrative". Personally, I find his argument (and his claim to be backed up by resarch) convincing. For example, if you play a game of D&D, you know that your characters will be killing evil fantasy people in order to loot their belongings. For BP to do well, potential campaign premises shouldn't be in the first chapter of the moderators guide. They shouldn't even be on the first chapter of the main book. They should be on the cover of the main book. Just IMHO. Sean Briggs wrote: > Blue Planet admits up front that it's not a game in which all the characters > are expected to fill a single specific role. There are nine suggestions for > possible campaign premises on page five of the Moderator's Guide. There are > adventure hooks scattered throughout the Moderator's Guide and First Colony, > as well as several actual adventures in the latter. > > Exactly what else do you feel is needed? > > - Sean > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. -- Ian McDonald http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/alternative.html http://travel.to/startrekcolony - Star Trek: Colony site & .mov http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/who-rpg.html - Dr. Who RPGs *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Andrew Ragland [araglan@us.ibm.com] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 5:47 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Earth System Possibilities Has anything been decided one way or another as to whether there is life on Io in the BP universe? This question got brought up in conjunction with the Homeschooler Campaign, and I'd like to get some kind of definitive answer. Thanks. Andrew Ragland Information Hunter/Gatherer: Explorer, Mapmaker, Guide araglan@us.ibm.com t/l 348-6665 ph (847) 240-6665 Skytel 1731111 "It is our choices ... that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." -- A. Dumbledore *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: kabael@softhome.net Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:44 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Earth System Possibilities > Has anything been decided one way or another as to whether there is life on > Io in the BP universe? This question got brought up in conjunction with the > Homeschooler Campaign, and I'd like to get some kind of definitive answer. > Thanks. I would be inclined to say "no" to life on Io, Europa, Titan or any other Solar body, if only to emphasis the unique and almost disturbing nature of Posiedon itself. As far as official word goes, however, that's not decided. Derek Guder - kabael@softhome.net - ICQ# 24193592 Opinionated reviewer extraordinaire *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: kabael@softhome.net Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:47 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - premise > This whole discussion reminds me of Ryan Dancey's comment that one of > the reasons for D&D's success is that it has a "core narrative". > Personally, I find his argument (and his claim to be backed up by > resarch) convincing. For example, if you play a game of D&D, you know > that your characters will be killing evil fantasy people in order to > loot their belongings. I have to say that the best games are those that leave that open, actually. Blue Planet, Nobilis, Unknown Armies, Continuum, Fading Suns, Planescape etc. All games that are great and often receive the reaction of "Great, what do I do with it now?" Of course since none of those games have ever really received the degree of success they deserve, I must sadly agree with your statement that focus sells. Unforatunately it usually also hurts the game concept :) Derek Guder - kabael@softhome.net - ICQ# 24193592 Opinionated reviewer extraordinaire *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Gareth Hanrahan [hanrahag@iol.ie] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:11 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Earth System Possibilities > > Has anything been decided one way or another as to whether there is life on > > Io in the BP universe? This question got brought up in conjunction with the > > Homeschooler Campaign, and I'd like to get some kind of definitive answer. > > Thanks. > > I would be inclined to say "no" to life on Io, Europa, Titan or any other > Solar body, if only to emphasis the unique and almost disturbing nature of > Posiedon itself. Too late. Life on Europa was discovered in 2013, according to the timeline in the Player's Guide... There's also the wierd...thingies on Poseidon's moon, Proteus. > Derek Guder - kabael@softhome.net - ICQ# 24193592 Gar http://www.irishgaming.com/warpcon http://chrysanthemumRoad.tripod.com - L5R fansite http://www.commcore.f2s.com/oceanview - Blue Planet fansite *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: NRFB Bob [necrobob@compfxnet.com] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:21 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Earth System Possibilities >Too late. Life on Europa was discovered in 2013, according to the timeline >in the Player's Guide... Lichen, wasn't it? Or something like that? >There's also the wierd...thingies on Poseidon's moon, Proteus. Hrm...I need to look this one up. I seem to remember something weird about this, but I'm fuzzy as to what it was... ____________________ Necromancer Bob, outside of the box... Visit The Gate: Necromancer Bob's Domain at: http://www.intws.com/necrobob AOL IM: NcroBob ICQ #78542780 "Do not mock the Panties of Potency." *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Robert N. Emerson [cudraoi@uswest.net] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 10:43 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - 229 Messages?! Gone mad? How can one go to a state in which they were born in? ;) Robert N. Emerson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Bacon" To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:41 PM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - 229 Messages?! > In less than a week?! Have you people all gone mad?! > > Not that I'm objecting, or anything, but... > > Have you all gone mad?! > > JB > > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: ChrisTheS [stormsurge@stormsurge.org] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 10:53 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Street Encounter Mind if I post this on Storm Surge? -- ChrisTheS ----- Original Message ----- From: "David R. Crowell" To: Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 4:20 AM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Street Encounter > Here is a brief encounter or Access Denied. I have my own version of what > the "real story" is feel free to make up what ever suits your campaign. > > Aborigine Autopsy > > A vendor offers the characters a chance to buy what he claims is a video of > an Aborigine autopsy. He is asking an outrageous price for the tape, and > will only show a three-second clip before purchase. The clip shows a group > of medical or scientific personel discecting "something" that "could" be an > Aborigine. It's very hard to tell fm the brief clip. The vendor claims that > the tape was pirated from the security camera system of the local > Incorporate or GEO facility. > > Follow up: The tape is not an obvious fake. It is of poor quality, and > shot from a bad camera angle so it is not possible to tell much about the > "autopsy" or its subject. There is no sound. If the characters aproach the > facility from which the tape is supposed to have come they will meet with > denial of any knowedge of such a tape, curiosity as to how they came into > possession of it, and possibly accusations of fraud or other criminal > activity related to its production. If the players at anytime after viewing > the tape return to the vendor they will find that he has dissapeared and > nobody seems to know where he is. > > The Real Story (my version): The tape is genuine, however it does not show > an Aborigine autopsy, but rather the disection of a large cephalopod. The > vendor has dissapeared because he went on a fishing trip and neglected to > tell anyone. I would play this with an X-files sort of feel, give the > players the sense that they have stumbled into a cover-up and the truth is > out there. Try to make them paranoid. > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: ChrisTheS [stormsurge@stormsurge.org] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 11:23 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - 229 Messages?! We haven't gone mad. We've been there for years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Bacon" To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - 229 Messages?! > In less than a week?! Have you people all gone mad?! > > Not that I'm objecting, or anything, but... > > Have you all gone mad?! > > JB > > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.