From: Tun Kai Poh [t_poh@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 11:08 PM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Dolphin gearing >Which reminds me: did anyone ever come up with vehicle-type ratings for >dolphins? And what's their turn rating in degrees/sec? More importantly, what's their Steath and Sonar ratings for submarine combat? I wanna be able to accurately model a Bataku And Friends attack pack vs. GenDiver sub battle, but there aren't enough stats to do that. Kai Poh, Malaysian Lagomorph ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Auberon [fskln1@uaf.edu] Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 9:59 PM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Dolphin gearing BIOHZD@aol.com wrote: > > >>>>Well, not really. They can "wiggle" backwards if they are in the shallows > and are touching the bottom, but they can not actually swim backwards. They So the wiggling is accomplished by contact with the bottom? > can also turn very sharply and end up going in the reverse direction very > quickly, but that requires that they are moving forward to begin with. Which reminds me: did anyone ever come up with vehicle-type ratings for dolphins? And what's their turn rating in degrees/sec? -- +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= "I never get involved in my own life. It's too much trouble" - Michael Garibaldi (Babylon 5) *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Auberon [fskln1@uaf.edu] Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 6:51 PM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Technical points Jerome Darmont wrote: > > At 23:42 18/02/99 EST, BIOHZD@aol.com wrote: > > >>>>>The use of "levels" (increments of 10%) in BP is intended to maintain > >simplicity. It is much easier to add/subtract multiples of ten, and to guage > >the magnitude of bonuses and penalties in tens, than it is to do the same > with > >integers. Using "levels" automatically eliminates the possibility of more > >cumbersome values. (Before anyone says anything - yes, we used integers for > >attribute modifiers and such, but we could not get away with using whole > >"levels" in such applications.) > > Well, to me +10/+20/+30 is simpler than introducing the notion of level. > Anyway, I'm nitpicking. :) The important difference is that you, or some nitpicky player, would feel a temptation to use +15% once. Then, you have to argue about it every time. Noone will ever suggest using 1.5 levels. I like the level thing 'cause it cuts down on the time I spend worrying about modifiers, and the time I spend haggling with players (mine do have a point, every now and then). It's also great to see the look on their faces when they realize what "-5 levels" means. -- +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= "I never get involved in my own life. It's too much trouble" - Michael Garibaldi (Babylon 5) *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Tun Kai Poh [t_poh@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 8:30 PM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Cc: ccbanzai@showme.missouri.edu Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - CTN Articles GEO Breaks Up Mail-Order Bride Ring BUCHAREST: Yesterday, a special GEO task force raided an apartment owned by the TransCosmos Agency, a colonial matchmaking agency in downtown Bucharest, shattering a gang suspected of the illegal transport of over 120 mail-order brides, many of them under-aged girls, to Poseidon over the past six years. Eight men were arrested for numerous charges of falsifying transit documents, bribing immigration officers, and kidnapping minors. In addition, 21 local women were discovered in the apartment, including nine girls below the age of 18. The women were taken into custody by the city's social services department. GEO Marshall Ozala, who headed the operation, said: "These [censored] sons of [censored] lure rural women to Bucharest with false promises of wealth and happiness. In reality, the average mail-order bride usually ends up as the abused sex slave of some drunken prospector who can't even speak her language but who paid 30,000cs plus travel costs to buy her." - Kai Poh, CTN/net Malcolm Proteges Dominate Zion Tribal Music Awards KINGSTON: Yesterday, as the wild and turbulent Zion Music Festival went into its second week, thousands of tribal reggae and neo-folk fans gathered in the Kingston Hydrodome for the native-only 2199 Zion Tribal Music Awards. To the surprise of many, tribal voters awarded three of the six coveted Best Performance awards to performers with ties to tribal reggae pioneer Deon Malcolm, including Poseidon's Price and Bluffman Tyler. The most controversial award-winner was Poseidon's Price, which won Best Neo-Folk Performance (Band) for the pirate radio hit "Storm Widow's Vow." The band was unable to attend. Founded in 2189 by maverick proteges of Deon Malcolm, Poseidon's Price is on the run from the GEO and Incorporate security agencies for its involvement in the ecoterrorist group known as The Children of The Widow. Another absentee, Douglas J. Jones, barred from Kingston by the NRM, won Best Neo-Folk Performance (Male) for "Dancing In The Photic Zone." Suzannah Malcolm-Peters, Deon Malcolm's niece, received the award for Best Neo-Folk Performance (Female) for "Rain Shadow." The Best Reggae Performance (Band) award went to "Don't Point That Gun At Me" by the Kraken Girls, largely due to a massive last-minute sympathy vote following the tragic shooting death of band member Ruth Noa last week. Bluffman Tyler won Best Reggae Performance (Male) for his update of his mentor Deon Malcolm's classic hit "Fork Leaf Girl." Best Reggae Performance (Female) was won by singer-actress Jessica Thorn for "She Got Water." The dominance of Deon Malcolm's proteges in the 2199 awards has led many musicians to question the integrity of the voting process. Although Malcolm has not been an NRM member for decades, his critics say he uses his NRM contacts to wield considerable power in the tribal music scene. Malcolm has denied these allegations. - Gail Arthur, CTN/net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Chris L'Etoile [stormwaltz@ibm.net] Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 7:34 AM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Re: Red sky Hey folks, BIOHZD@aol.com wrote: > You write: > > Just finished reading "A 'Simon' in the Rough". Oh Boy! By the way, what are > the stats for The Incredible Disappearing > Boat/Subs(tm)? > > >>>>Sorry bro, you'll have to wait for Fluid Mechanics for that little baby - > besides those craft are *very* expensive ; ). Of course, you could always satiate yourself by taking a look at the real thing at; http://ussubs.com/Luxury_folder/luxury.main.html ;) - Chris -- /------------------------------------------------------\ | "You know, you're really beautiful when you're | | angry. Do you get beautiful very often?" | | - Terry Moore | |------------------------------------------------------| | stormwaltz@ibm.net | e2aow@geocities.com | |------------------------------------------------------| | -=The Empire II Archive=- | | http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Labyrinth/6085/ | | | | http://members.xoom.com/Stormwaltz | \------------------------------------------------------/ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 7:00 PM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Red sky Hey Alan, You write: Just finished reading "A 'Simon' in the Rough". Oh Boy! By the way, what are the stats for The Incredible Disappearing Boat/Subs(tm)? >>>>Sorry bro, you'll have to wait for Fluid Mechanics for that little baby - besides those craft are *very* expensive ; ). Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 7:00 PM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Technical points (and Water Con) Auberon, You ask: I hadn't even thought about that. Can they back up at all? >>>>Well, not really. They can "wiggle" backwards if they are in the shallows and are touching the bottom, but they can not actually swim backwards. They can also turn very sharply and end up going in the reverse direction very quickly, but that requires that they are moving forward to begin with. Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Archangel Gabriel [angelgabriel@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 3:01 PM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Re: Abo conciousness (ACCESS DENIED) Eva wrote: >Enlightened self-interest in not pure altruism. Nature cannot select for >pure altruism. If indeed the survival of the aborigines is dependant on >how well they do helping the rest of the planet, than its not altruism and >that's a moot point. If the aborigines protect the rest of Poseidon >because its "their duty" but not because their survival/reproduction >depends on it, then its altruism, which nature cannot select for. >Evolution cannot produce pure altruism. Just to poke at the pile, not because I really want to argue this philosophical point: NOTHING can produce pure altruism. There is no such thing. All altruism is really enlightened self-interest. Even if the self-interest is no more than feel good about doing the right thing. That being the case, of course evolution cannot produce true altruism. It doesn't exist. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Tun Kai Poh [t_poh@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 11:42 AM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - T-32 repost attach. (AD) Uh, doesn't seem to be anything wrong. The first post of the weapons article seemed to be all right, too. What was missing? Kai Poh, Malaysian Lagomorph ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:53:37 -0500 From: "Alan M. Nuss" Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Red sky Just finished reading "A 'Simon' in the Rough". Oh Boy! By the way, what are the stats for The Incredible Disappearing Boat/Subs(tm)? Alan *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:38:05 +0100 From: Jerome Darmont Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Technical points At 23:42 18/02/99 EST, BIOHZD@aol.com wrote: >>>>>The use of "levels" (increments of 10%) in BP is intended to maintain >simplicity. It is much easier to add/subtract multiples of ten, and to guage >the magnitude of bonuses and penalties in tens, than it is to do the same with >integers. Using "levels" automatically eliminates the possibility of more >cumbersome values. (Before anyone says anything - yes, we used integers for >attribute modifiers and such, but we could not get away with using whole >"levels" in such applications.) Well, to me +10/+20/+30 is simpler than introducing the notion of level. Anyway, I'm nitpicking. :) >>>>>In *abstract* terms that *is* how the scale system is structured - the >higher the stat in one scale the closer it is to the lower stats of the next >scale. There is so much variation in comparing extremes however, that >practicality demands some arbitrary cut offs - hence the "no contest" rule. My >advice is to make a judgment call and do as seems realistic for the specific >situation. If you feel the actual stats are close enough, give the player a >roll. If you feel they are not, follow the rule - or maybe offer them a >dramatic roll, to see just how outclassed they are ; ). >>>>>As per above, if there was less variation in comparing extremes, this is >how the scale rule would always work. Instead, because such comparisons are >usually unrealistic, this trick only works in some situations. My advice - use >it when it works! I'll probably use the 'impossible task' mechanics if I ever have to deal with such a situation. Thx! - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerome DARMONT, LIMOS, Universite Blaise Pascal - Clermont-Ferrand II mailto:darmont@libd1.univ-bpclermont.fr http://altern.org/darmont/ ICQ:8759237 *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:59:43 EST From: BIOHZD@aol.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Technical points (and Water Con) Auberon, You ask: I hadn't even thought about that. Can they back up at all? >>>>Well, not really. They can "wiggle" backwards if they are in the shallows and are touching the bottom, but they can not actually swim backwards. They can also turn very sharply and end up going in the reverse direction very quickly, but that requires that they are moving forward to begin with. Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 23:42:59 EST From: BIOHZD@aol.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Speaking of dolphins... Hey All, Here is one of those weird "six degrees" things that relates to dolphins and BP... If you watched that National Geographic special on dolphins last week, you might remember that researcher in Australia named Conners (he was the one in the yellow boat that had names for 300 dolphins). As players of BP, you should also remember Matt Sturm, the esteemed artist that did the Arch cover and is doing the AD screen. Well, it turns out that Matt's sister, now a marine biologist in Australia, once worked with Conners (and the dolphin they call Niki in the show) back when Conners was a grad student. Small waterworld eh? From the depths, Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.