From: Jim Heivilin [ccbanzai@showme.missouri.edu] Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 8:18 To: Blue Planet List (E-mail) Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Long range cetaceans Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:05:32 -0900 (AKST) From: Auberon To: Blue Planet List Subject: Long range cetaceans How do cetaceans travel over long distances? Are there established mechanisms for that? I mean, I've seen the Cetacean Power Sled in Undercurrents #1, but if they don't have 80,000 cs, what then? (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) May God stand between you and harm in all the empty places where you must walk. Auberon *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Nezach [nezach@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, 09 March, 1998 23:56 To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Moons Simulation Hey all, I found a site that that has a simulation of Posiden's moons. It is at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/1394/nbody.htm The orbits of the moons in the simulation seem realy erratic and if you start the sim with a low seperation they seem to bounce off each other. If someone with a knack for these things had time educate me as to what is going on there I would appreciate it. -- Thanks, Ndege _______________________________ Every dogma has its day. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jim Heivilin [ccbanzai@showme.missouri.edu] Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 8:19 To: Blue Planet List (E-mail) Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Voting Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:30:22 -0900 (AKST) From: Auberon To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Voting On Sun, 8 Mar 1998, tun kai poh wrote: > Is anyone other than me having trouble submitting the voting form through > Netscape? Dunno. I use a browser called Opera (http://www.operasoftware.com) at work, but it's Winbloze only right now (dammit!) In any case, if the BZG people could post a message on the 8th or so with the nmes of those who've voted, that might help for those of us, (me included) who aren't sure whether we've been counted or not. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) May God stand between you and harm in all the empty places where you must walk. Auberon *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jim Heivilin [ccbanzai@showme.missouri.edu] Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 8:20 To: Blue Planet List (E-mail) Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Slang Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:47:49 -0900 (AKST) From: Auberon To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Slang I'm starting up a game here soon, and we're going to end up with some new vehicles. One is a modular sub, and the other is a houseblimp. Would people be interested in seeing the vehicle stats for these? (I could care less about intellectual property rights.) Also, does anyone else have new vehicles, guns, cybernetics, biomods, whatever? Also, I've done the math on the Cetacean Power Sled, and that thing is *really* fast. Considering that it's in the water, is that really legitimate? Honest question -- I know next to nothing about MHD drive efficiency. Also, I'd be interested a more affordable, slower, probably less equipped version. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) May God stand between you and harm in all the empty places where you must walk. Auberon *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: fleschneab13@uwwvax.uww.edu Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 16:19 To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Long range cetaceans I would imagine that the cetatans don't go very far. After all, a person who doesn't have 20,000 for a car doesn't go very far, either. Planewalker *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: R. Stefko [stefko@westol.com] Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 14:45 To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Slang Here's a (long) list of slang I've come across in roleplaying and science fiction literature. A lot of them are derived from Russian; this is due mostly to my fondness for Nadsat, the Russian-based teenager slang from Anthony Burgess' "A Clockwork Orange." BAGGED & TAGGED: dead, deceased, terminated. BIZ: business. BOLNY: physically ill; from the Russian bolnoy, "ill". BOLSHY: big, great, high quality; from the Russian bolshoyeh, "great, big". BURGER: average citizen; from the German burger, "citizen of a burg [fortified town]", or the English bourgeoisie BOZHEMOI: My God! From the Russian. BREETVA: blade, especially a knife or sword; from the Russian breetva, "blade, razor". CEMENT POISONING: death by sudden impact. CRED: credit. CYBERAXE: a musical instrument, usually a guitar or synthesizer, equipped with a neural interface jack. DENGI: currency subject to wild inflation; from the Russian dengi, "money". FOLD: hardcopy currency, paper bills. GACHA: the place occupied by a homeless person; from the Spanish agacharse, "to squat". GAIJIN: foreigner, outsider; from the Japanese. GIBSON: 1) a powerful supercomputer, 2) a person who displays remarkable foresight; from the 20th century author William Gibson. GOMI: garbage (often of an inobviously useful kind); from the Japanese. GRILLER: a guerrilla fighter. HANABI: heavy ordnance; from the Japanese hanabi, "fireworks". 'HAYO: hello; from the Japanese ohayo, "hello". Also 'HAYO GOZAIMAS. KEIRETSU: corporation; from the Japanese. KHOROSHO: good, okay, fine; from the Russian. KROV(V)Y: bloody; from the Russian. MILEETSYA: military grade; from the Russian. MINSHY: small, poor quality; from the Russian menshye, "small". NACH: supervisor, administrator; from the Russian nachal'nik, "supervisor". NICHEVO: It cannot be helped. From the Russian. NYEK: crude; from the Russian nyeh'kulturny, "uncultured". OO'ZHAS: awful, terrible; from the Russian. Also KAKOY OO'ZHAS: That's too bad. PANZER: a heavily armed and armored vehicle; from the German panzer, "tank". PROLES: poor citizen, proletarian. RAZ: to heckle, tease; from the Russian razdrazhat, "to irritate". RIEKE: profit; from the Japanese. RONIN: loner, especially a rogue assassin or operative; from the Japanese. ROOSH: to kill in a messy fashion; from the Russian razrooshat, "to demolish". Also, ROOSHED: killed in a messy fashion. SARARIMAN: corporate employee; fusion of Japanese and English elements. SHACK: a criminal gang; from the Russian shaika, "band of thieves". SHAIKUJIN: an apathetic individual; from the Japanese shaikujin, "good citizen". SCHEISS: excrement; from the German. SHOGUN: a corporate CEO; from the Japanese shogun, "warlord". STOH?: Really? From the Russian. TOVER: friend, pal; from the Russian tovareeshch, "comrade". VALUTA: hard currency; from the Russian. VAY: pain; from the Yiddish. VIDIOT: a person addicted to electronic entertainment media. WETWARE: biotechnology, especially such technology implanted in a living organism. ZAIBATSU: corporation; from the Japanese. ZEK: corporate executive. ZEN GINA: the mythical perfect woman; from the Russian zhenshcheena, "woman". Hope these come in handy. Robert Stefko From: Jim Heivilin [ccbanzai@showme.missouri.edu] Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 16:03 To: 'blue_planet@MPGN.COM' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Slang On Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 14:45 PM, R. Stefko [SMTP:stefko@westol.com] wrote: > BAGGED & TAGGED: dead, deceased, terminated. > Also as in, put a toe tag on and inserted into a body bag (circa Vietnam unless I'm mistaken) > CEMENT POISONING: death by sudden impact. > "Plastic poisoning"? (since most structures are made of plastic instead of concrete) > GAIJIN: foreigner, outsider; from the Japanese. > I like this one! ;-) > STOH?: Really? From the Russian. > Also means "What!" (the actual characters are Cyrillic rather than roman so there is no direct translation) Can we get some pronunciation on these Russian words? I can handle the Japanese (I can speak some but not read it). Jim ******************************************* Jim Heivilin, Webmaster Biohazard Games ccbanzai@showme.missouri.edu *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: R. Stefko [stefko@westol.com] Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 16:44 To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Slang >On Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 14:45 PM, R. Stefko [SMTP:stefko@westol.com] wrote: > >> BAGGED & TAGGED: dead, deceased, terminated. >> >Also as in, put a toe tag on and inserted into a body bag (circa Vietnam unless I'm mistaken) > > >> CEMENT POISONING: death by sudden impact. >> >"Plastic poisoning"? (since most structures are made of plastic instead of concrete) > > >> GAIJIN: foreigner, outsider; from the Japanese. >> >I like this one! ;-) > >> STOH?: Really? From the Russian. >> >Also means "What!" (the actual characters are Cyrillic rather than roman so there is no direct translation) > >Can we get some pronunciation on these Russian words? I can handle the Japanese (I can speak some but not read it). > >Jim Actually, they're all pretty much spelled phonetically. Say them how they look. For example, BOZHEMOI is boh-zhe-moy. The "zh" sound is like the z in azure. Also, CEMENT POISONING could be an anochrism held over from previous centuries. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 17:18 To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Slang Hello Auberon, I would be very interested in seeing your vehicle stats - especially the house blimp as it sounds like a neat new twist. Regarding the power shell - there are several considerations that went into determining the craft's speed. Underwater speed is most limited by the degree of drag and turbulence created by the moving object. Dolphins actually swim faster then calculations would allow, and it has to do with the way their rubber skin maintains laminar flow over their bodies and behind their tails. The US Navy has even researched the phenomenon for possible miliatry applications - high speed sub skins, faster torps, etc. In the natural world, the tuna (yes I said the tuna) is the fastest creature on the planet (note I said *on* the planet - falcons can dive at 250+ miles per hour but that's cheating ; ). Tuna have been clocked at over 70 miles per hour in the open ocean, and they can maitain this speed over great distances. They can swim so fast becase they have exceptionally low drag (stiff lunate fin and tail shapes) and those funny little bumps near their tails (special boney scales called scutes) that reduce tubulence to almost nothing. Assuming the natural world can manage this, imagine the speeds computer designed steamlining and oversized MHD drives could create for a cetacean-shaped sled... Hope this helps, Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 17:17 To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Long range cetaceans Hello Auberon, You ask about distance travel for cetaceans. They basically have two options - technologically assisted, or as nature intended. There are the various versions of power shells, and there are also larger vessels with centacean accomodations - sub-surface locks leading to internal tanks, etc. Some military subs and surface ships, and even a few aircraft are designed to carry units of cetaceans for quick insertions. Hydrospan has a small collection of orbital shuttles and space-planes specifically designed to ferry cetaceans. Additionally, there are several private concerns that have boats or aircraft capable of transporting cetaceans, and a few will even charter if the price is right. More commonly cetaceans, especially native ones, are forced to swim. At first this may sound limiting, but remember several things: 1. On Earth, cetaceans migrate farther than any other species of mammal - thousands of miles, twice a year for some species. 2. They can also swim almost continously, as they essentially sleep with only one half of their brain at a time, and so they can cover remarkable distances in a relatively short time. 3. Culturally, cetaceans are very patient, and also have a basic mistrust of technology - they do not like to depend on it. As a result most are perfectly comfortable with heading off over the horizon if there is a reason to go. If they have an important appointment to make, then they simply need to plan ahead ; ). Hope this helps, Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: William Hindmarch [hindmarc@stu.beloit.edu] Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 17:22 To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Slang Wow! Not only are most of those very cool (esp. for the near-future-esque international secret agent underground hi tech corporate war big guns game that I run sometimes (whew)) but I'm surprised how many of the Japanese ones I knew. The Russian slangs are the bomb. You've made a friend of mine at school very happy. And, similar to Roosh: SPOOGE; To splatter on, to cause to splatter, or the splatter itself. "Aw man, it spooged me!", "I hit him with the rocket launcher and he spooged!", "I spooged him with my railcannon." (From Space: Above and Beyond and Quake players, among others.) *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Nezach [nezach@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 19:29 To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Slang Jim Heivilin wrote: > > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:47:49 -0900 (AKST) > From: Auberon > To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Slang > > I'm starting up a game here soon, and we're going to end up with some new > vehicles. One is a modular sub, and the other is a houseblimp. > > Would people be interested in seeing the vehicle stats for these? (I > could care less about intellectual property rights.) Heck Yeah! -- Enjoy, Ndege _______________________________ Every dogma has its day. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: William Hindmarch [hindmarc@stu.beloit.edu] Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 21:32 To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Slang > Jim Heivilin wrote: > > > > I'm starting up a game here soon, and we're going to end up with some new > > vehicles. One is a modular sub, and the other is a houseblimp. > > > > Would people be interested in seeing the vehicle stats for these? (I > > could care less about intellectual property rights.) > > Heck Yeah! > I second that! *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.