From: Wagner [utiel@df.ufscar.br] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 7:30 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Distributing new Synergy based games Thank you for your answer Mr. Benage In this respect the BioHazard Politic is wonderful. I belive that if in the internet we have many works with Synergy system and many scenaries, with variations of the Blue Planet setting, the game will be more know in the community. Of course many of the free works distributed in the internet are horrible but there are always good works too. I have players that don't like to play a SF RPG only in a waterworld planet (this is because many of them when think in SF remember Star Wars, Star Treks, Babylon 5, and others movies and books ) then I can, with the Synergy system, create some Space Opera SF and I can put Poseidon as a central element of some more big plot. ThentThey will play the game and I can introduce to them the elements of BP. In my opinion, as a GM I have to create adventures that my players want to play, and with the time a can create adventures only in Poseidon for example. Wagner ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Benage To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Distributing new Synergy based games > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David R. Crowell" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Distributing new Synergy based games > > > > That's what I thought. > > So, to clarify, would it be ok to distribute a Synergy based game for free > > or at printing cost as long as I credited BioHazard etc for their > > intellectual property? > > You can distribute such a game for free, but you can't charge anything for > it -- even if it's just to recoup your own costs. How are we supposed to > know how much it really cost you? ;) > > Greg Benage > FFG > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Greg Benage [gbenage@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:14 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Distributing new Synergy based games ----- Original Message ----- From: "David R. Crowell" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Distributing new Synergy based games > That's what I thought. > So, to clarify, would it be ok to distribute a Synergy based game for free > or at printing cost as long as I credited BioHazard etc for their > intellectual property? You can distribute such a game for free, but you can't charge anything for it -- even if it's just to recoup your own costs. How are we supposed to know how much it really cost you? ;) Greg Benage FFG *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 10:27 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Distributing new Synergy based games **** horrible but there are always good works too. I have players that don't like to play a SF RPG only in a waterworld planet (this is because many of them when think in SF remember Star Wars, Star Treks, Babylon 5, and others movies and books ) then I can, with the Synergy system, create some Space Opera SF and I can put Poseidon as a central element of some more big plot. ** Has anyone else read Peter F. Hamilton's "Night's Dawn Trilogy", huh, huh? "The Reality Dysfunction", "The Naked God", all that? Huh? *grins* Space opera at a most excellent point, and in the novels there is a planet, Atlantis I believe, which is totally covered with water - no surfaced land masses to speak of. Instead, they have floating biotech islands that move around on the currents that the residents live on. Just one of several worlds ;) For a frontier wilderness colony world there's always Lalonde. I highly recommend this series to anyone interested in .. well, nice scifi with a SLIGHT touch of the mystical thrown in towards the end. It's an excellent work which I feel many of the people here would appreciate. -C -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Wagner [utiel@df.ufscar.br] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 10:53 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Distributing new Synergy based games I will look these books. Thanks Wagner > Has anyone else read Peter F. Hamilton's "Night's Dawn Trilogy", huh, huh? "The Reality Dysfunction", "The Naked God", all that? Huh? *grins* Space opera at a most excellent point, and in the novels there is a planet, Atlantis I believe, which is totally covered with water - no surfaced land masses to speak of. Instead, they have floating biotech islands that move around on the currents that the residents live on. Just one of several worlds ;) For a frontier wilderness colony world there's always Lalonde. I highly recommend this series to anyone interested in .. well, nice scifi with a SLIGHT touch of the mystical thrown in towards the end. It's an excellent work which I feel many of the people here would appreciate. > > -C *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Ken [geopeacekeeper@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 10:51 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Products??? Hey all, it's been about a year and a half, but I'm back finally. For those of you who don't know me, I'm Ken and I used to be one of Jeff's students at that military school where he works. Anyways, what new products have come out during my absence??? The latest thing when my email account got toasted was Access Denied and talk about Undercurrents 5/6. Anyways, that's all I've gotta say for now. I'll look at recent posts and maybe add my input later. Ken Carpenter Former Peacekeeper trainee __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Andrew Ragland [araglan@us.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:22 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Distributing new Synergy based games I'm reading the second book of Reality Dysfunction now, and it's given me all sorts of ideas for my BP campaign. Steam engines are very simple to build, and don't require nearly the maintenance of higher tech, nor are they as hard to pull maintenance on or repair. Sidewheelers can be oceangoing (sternwheelers aren't stable enough). Somewhere in the backwaters (no pun intended) of Poseidon, there's a tramp paddlewheel steamer or two. I'm also thinking about the technological telepathy afforded by neural nanonics, and the obvious applications for GEO Shock Troopers and the like. I may introduce neural nanonics for the GEO types, and maybe something like affinity for people that have been got at by the aborigines. No explanation of why they can do it, they just can.... and the aborigines can tune in on every thought, gathering information for their studies of humanity and cetacea. I highly recommend this series to anybody with an interest in hard SF. Hamilton is a brilliant writer, with a good sense of the tragedy of war and the patience to set up characters far enough ahead that you really care about what happens to them when the storm comes down. Andrew Ragland Information Hunter/Gatherer: Explorer, Mapmaker, Guide araglan@us.ibm.com t/l 348-6665 ph (847) 240-6665 Skytel 1731111 "It is our choices ... that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." -- A. Dumbledore "chalz@earthlink.net" @lists.ient.com on 03/15/2001 10:27:21 AM Please respond to blue_planet@lists.ient.com Sent by: owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com To: "blue_planet@lists.ient.com" cc: Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Distributing new Synergy based games **** horrible but there are always good works too. I have players that don't like to play a SF RPG only in a waterworld planet (this is because many of them when think in SF remember Star Wars, Star Treks, Babylon 5, and others movies and books ) then I can, with the Synergy system, create some Space Opera SF and I can put Poseidon as a central element of some more big plot. ** Has anyone else read Peter F. Hamilton's "Night's Dawn Trilogy", huh, huh? "The Reality Dysfunction", "The Naked God", all that? Huh? *grins* Space opera at a most excellent point, and in the novels there is a planet, Atlantis I believe, which is totally covered with water - no surfaced land masses to speak of. Instead, they have floating biotech islands that move around on the currents that the residents live on. Just one of several worlds ;) For a frontier wilderness colony world there's always Lalonde. I highly recommend this series to anyone interested in .. well, nice scifi with a SLIGHT touch of the mystical thrown in towards the end. It's an excellent work which I feel many of the people here would appreciate. -C -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 3:10 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Distributing new Synergy based games **** I'm reading the second book of Reality Dysfunction now, and it's given me all sorts of ideas for my BP campaign. Steam engines are very simple to ** Beautiful stuff, no? Have you read any of his other material? Before you get on to 'The Naked God', I recommend grabbing the short story collection 'A Second Chance at Eden'. It's a collection of stories from near-future to just before the start of the Trilogy. Hamilton is just fantastic. I love this guy. ;) **** steamer or two. I'm also thinking about the technological telepathy afforded by neural nanonics, and the obvious applications for GEO Shock Troopers and the like. I may introduce neural nanonics for the GEO types, ** As far as weapons interface goes, they talk about programmed reflexes and radio neural links to weapons and such in BP v2 (maybe in v1 as well; don't know), particularly with the Marshals. But yeah, in either the 2nd book of the 2nd book (well, it's only 3 books hardcover, 6 paperback), or in the first book of the third book, he goes into greater detail on neural nanonics, installation, usage, etc. It made me drool with anticipation. Literally :PP **** and maybe something like affinity for people that have been got at by the aborigines. No explanation of why they can do it, they just can.... and the aborigines can tune in on every thought, gathering information for their studies of humanity and cetacea. ** Ooo, that'd be a very neat trick, something to slap into an ACCESS DENIED section. That'd be great. Unknowing spies. Hehe. **** Hamilton is a brilliant writer, with a good sense of the tragedy of war and the patience to set up characters far enough ahead that you really care about what happens to them when the storm comes down. ** Even some of the bad guys. We have characters with changes of heart, and yeah, even bad guys I came to worry about, like Andre DuChamp. Beautiful ending, too. I was not let down by the way he closed the whole story. He accounted for everything. If we're not careful, this might turn into the Peter F. Hamilton Fan List ;) (side note, he's also a UK author, for you Brits in the group) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Gareth Hanrahan [hanrahag@iol.ie] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 4:20 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Products??? > Hey all, it's been about a year and a half, but I'm > back finally. For those of you who don't know me, I'm > Ken and I used to be one of Jeff's students at that > military school where he works. Anyways, what new > products have come out during my absence??? Yikes. Wow. A lot of stuff. Firstly, if you don't know, BP is now being published by Fantasy Flight Games, and a new expanded second edition is out. (www.bpv2.com has the details). The second edition books (GM's guide and players guide) have everything from V1 and Archipelago. In addition to the new edition, we've had Fluid Mechanics (tech sourcebook), First Colony (Haven City) and recently Frontier Justice (the GEO Marshals/Gorchoffs/Zionists). The Field Guide (ecology) should be out in a month or so I think. Greg posted a release schedule a while back... > Ken Carpenter > Former Peacekeeper trainee Gar http://www.irishgaming.com/warpcon http://chrysanthemumRoad.tripod.com - L5R fansite http://www.commcore.f2s.com - Blue Planet fansite *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Greg Benage [gbenage@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 7:38 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Gobion! Hey Gareth, Did you get my message about Gobion? It might've gone to another email address. I need his real name for the credits. Reply ASAP! Thanks! Greg FFG *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Dr Ian McDonald [ian.mcdonald@iname.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:24 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Distributing new Synergy based games I'm probably not the only person to say this, but I don't think that that's in your own commercial interest. The mindblowing thing about Blue Planet - the USP, if you like - isn't the synergy system, but the setting. The important thing about the games system is that most potential players don't already know it, and would rather not have to learn it. (Remember, the people on the mailing list are the really keen ones.) The important thing about the setting is that it's a brilliant piece of hard science. Personally, I like the way synergy handles damage. But other than that, I don't think it had anything to recommend it over say, Fuzion or Fudge. (But not d20. d20 is just awful at anything but D&D3E, and perhaps similar combat genres.) If other people - who sign a license agreement, of coures - use synergy for their games, that can only reduce the barriers to people playing Blue Planet. Greg Benage wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David R. Crowell" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Distributing new Synergy based games > > > That's what I thought. > > So, to clarify, would it be ok to distribute a Synergy based game for free > > or at printing cost as long as I credited BioHazard etc for their > > intellectual property? > > You can distribute such a game for free, but you can't charge anything for > it -- even if it's just to recoup your own costs. How are we supposed to > know how much it really cost you? ;) > > Greg Benage > FFG > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. -- Ian McDonald http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/alternative.html http://travel.to/startrekcolony - Star Trek: Colony site & .mov http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/who-rpg.html - Dr. Who RPGs *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Kirk Foote [kfoote@inconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 7:17 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Products??? Ken "Clan War" Carpenter? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com > [mailto:owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com]On Behalf Of Ken > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:51 AM > To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com > Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Products??? > > > Hey all, it's been about a year and a half, but I'm > back finally. For those of you who don't know me, I'm > Ken and I used to be one of Jeff's students at that > military school where he works. Anyways, what new > products have come out during my absence??? The latest > thing when my email account got toasted was Access > Denied and talk about Undercurrents 5/6. Anyways, > that's all I've gotta say for now. I'll look at recent > posts and maybe add my input later. > > Ken Carpenter > Former Peacekeeper trainee > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > ****************************************************************** > ********* > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Ken [geopeacekeeper@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 8:16 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Products??? --- Kirk Foote wrote: > Ken "Clan War" Carpenter? > I doubt it. I don't think I've ever played clan war. I might have at some con Jeff took me to while I was still a student, but that's about it. Ken Carpenter Former Peacekeeper trainee __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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