From: Ml10@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:44 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - native/hybrid interaction In a message dated 3/18/01 10:38:05 PM Central Standard Time, chalz@earthlink.net writes: << This might be covered in a publication I haven't seen yet, but what is the general attitude of natives towards the hybrid cats and silvas? >> In my game: Mostly like the general population. Hybrids are rare so most people are only exposed to them through the media. As Hybrids are heavily associated with GEO and Newcomers, those feelings get mixed in as well. Natives that are anit-GEO and/or anti-Newcomer tend to react very strongly to Hybrids. >>Vice versa?<< Mostly like the way that Newcomers treat Natives. Just because they have been modified doesn't mean that they view Natives differently. However, most Hybrids and Natives tend to be in the same economic class and compete with each other for jobs so within a community their might be friction if one side thinks that the other is getting preferential treatment. <> Just like all other humans. Mike Z *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Shannon Wiley [shannonwiley@home.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 6:45 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - More on Synergy use/distrib Granted, I'm not from Biohazard or FFG, but I'd have to say that 'Reproducing' a chapter on your web page would be a 'no no.' Dumbing it down and just putting up the bare essentials of the system without just typing up the chapter word-for-word would probably be fine so long as the proper legal disclaimers are in effect. This is the approach that White Wolf has taken. to the use of their stuff on the web. Shannon Shannonwiley@home.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com [mailto:owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com]On Behalf Of chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 10:43 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - More on Synergy use/distrib So it's OK for us to use and play with the Synergy system, but would it be okay for us to reproduce, say, the chapter on Synergy from BP PG v2 on our web page, include it with our documentation, etc? Thanks. --Charles -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:41 AM To: 'list, blue planet' Subject: [FWD] Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sciences in BP > -----Original Message----- > From: "Wil" > To: > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sciences in BP > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:10:29 -0800 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:30 PM > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sciences in BP > > > > > > > This > > > because I am a stupid in work in an area of science that > in the year > 2199 is the > > > same as today. > > > > Except it's not. BP hasn't gone into the intricate details > of the changes > > in particle physics over the next 200 years or so, mainly > because it would > > be impossible and wouldn't affect play any, nor would it > appeal to more > > than a few people. > > > > Think about the increased power and miniaturization of computers, > > understanding the wormhole in _any_ extent and using fusion > power. None of > > those could happen if 2199 was the same as today. > > > > > The same for the people with work with AI they are all fools. > > > > Um... no. Just because their research has not paid off or > achieved an > > ultimate result doesn't mean they are fools. That's a > staggeringly narrow > > view to take. Research in one specific field always results > in diffusion > of > > knowledge into a variety of other subjects. > > > > As for the viability of AIs in general, that's a very hazy region. > > Theoretically there is no reason you can't have a consciousness in a > > computer, but considering we don't understand how the brain > is organized > > and works, let alone just what consciousness _is_, I'm not > holding my > > breath on the whole AI issue. > > > > > PS: wait some years and all this glamour about genetic > engeneering will > stop. If > > > the genes are long range correlated then will be very > difficult to make > these > > > marvelous prevision about genetic manipulation. > > > > You know, I have absolutely no idea what you're saying here. > > > > Derek Guder - kabael@softhome.net - ICQ# 24193592 > > > > Opinionated reviewer extraordinaire > > > ************************************************************** > ************* > > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:40 AM To: 'list, blue planet' Subject: [FWD] Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Errata (was: Unarmed Damage > -----Original Message----- > From: "Wil" > To: > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Errata (was: Unarmed Damage > (was: Basic Question)) > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:04:05 -0800 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Wills" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 4:44 PM > Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Errata (was: Unarmed Damage (was: Basic > Question)) > > > > I'm leaving on vacation tomorrow, so I can't go find this > information > > myself. I think it should include: > > > > 1) The character creation # of packages question. > > 2) The punch / kick damage question. > > 3) The timeline bit that just came up. > > 4) Maybe the Greg Benage's unofficial cinematic rules. > > > > I thought about doing this recently, but I've been busy. > > > > Okay, now my two bits about off-topic noise hidden within > an on-topic > > message so I don't feel guilty about contributing to it: > > > > > > > > I don't like it at all. Not on mailing lists. Old Blue > Planet mailing list > > suited me just fine. I'm about to leave on vacation, and > I'm unsubscribing > > for that time period instead of letting the messages pile > up(and read them > > when I get back) because there's been too much junk > floating around for my > > poor modem to take. So I might miss something(que horror!). > And, yes, if > it > > gets significantly worse permanently, I'll unsubscribe. > > > > On the positive side, we've also had more on-topic > discussion, although I > > had to sift through to get to it. Here is my suggestion for > off-topic > posts: > > keep it to one layer. That is, the occasional off-topic > reply is okay, but > > don't reply to an already off-topic message. > > > > And, yes, my reaction is probably because I have a slow > modem and haven't > > had much time to sort through off-topic banter recently. > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > ************* > > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:44 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - native/hybrid interaction **** Mostly like the way that Newcomers treat Natives. Just because they have been modified doesn't mean that they view Natives differently. However, most Hybrids and Natives tend to be in the same economic class and compete with each other for jobs so within a community their might be friction if one side thinks that the other is getting preferential treatment. ** I didn't know if maybe the tendancies of some hybrids to bail from the GEO, and also possible great distrust/dislike of GEO/Incorp due to the 'unwanted' modifications... basically a race created to be fodder. I didn't know if this would perhaps lead to bondings betweens hybrids and natives. or perhaps a general feeling of abandonment by the ruling systems would foster a certain degree of brotherhood. -C -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Andrew Ragland [araglan@us.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 1:45 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - native/hybrid interaction In the homeschooling game, we've got one player who's running a Cat. Other than being made fun of because he can't swim (and has absolutely no interest in learning how), he's gotten along pretty well with the others. Kids, on the other hand, either ostracize the different one or accept him as one of their own, there doesn't seem to be a middle ground. Beyond that, adults have been taught to hate. Kids may or may not have learned that unpleasant lesson yet. I intend to address this issue at some future point, with a negative reaction by adults to the Cat PC. Andrew Ragland Information Hunter/Gatherer: Explorer, Mapmaker, Guide araglan@us.ibm.com t/l 348-6665 ph (847) 240-6665 Skytel 1731111 "It is our choices ... that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." -- A. Dumbledore "chalz@earthlink.net" @lists.ient.com on 03/19/2001 12:43:43 PM Please respond to blue_planet@lists.ient.com Sent by: owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com To: "blue_planet@lists.ient.com" cc: Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - native/hybrid interaction **** Mostly like the way that Newcomers treat Natives. Just because they have been modified doesn't mean that they view Natives differently. However, most Hybrids and Natives tend to be in the same economic class and compete with each other for jobs so within a community their might be friction if one side thinks that the other is getting preferential treatment. ** I didn't know if maybe the tendancies of some hybrids to bail from the GEO, and also possible great distrust/dislike of GEO/Incorp due to the 'unwanted' modifications... basically a race created to be fodder. I didn't know if this would perhaps lead to bondings betweens hybrids and natives. or perhaps a general feeling of abandonment by the ruling systems would foster a certain degree of brotherhood. -C -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Ml10@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:09 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - native/hybrid interaction In a message dated Mon, 19 Mar 2001 1:50:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, "chalz@earthlink.net" writes: I didn't know if maybe the tendancies of some hybrids to bail from the GEO, and also possible great distrust/dislike of GEO/Incorp due to the 'unwanted' modifications... basically a race created to be fodder. I didn't know if this would perhaps lead to bondings betweens hybrids and natives. or perhaps a general feeling of abandonment by the ruling systems would foster a certain degree of brotherhood. >> Interesting thought. It might happen within small social groups, but I don't see it being a common or widespread practice as Hybrids are rare and Natives are a rather close knit group. Much depends on the environment. If decent work is hard to come by and the crime level is high, I see lots of friction between Hybrids and Natives. The Hybrids, designed to be super troopers, would be regarded as the source of criminal activity. The Natives would be accused of giving preferential treatment by hiring a Native over a Hybrid. Hmm.... I smell a riot brewing in Brighton in the near future of my campaign.... Mike Z *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 11:41 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - native/hybrid interaction **** Much depends on the environment. If decent work is hard to come by and the crime level is high, I see lots of friction between Hybrids and Natives. The Hybrids, designed to be super troopers, would be regarded as the source of criminal activity. The Natives would be accused of giving preferential treatment by hiring a Native over a Hybrid. ** I'm enjoying everyone's comments. This is neat stuff. Right now I'm a player in a campaign which involves a group of 1 diver, 2 squids and 1 cat; part of the background story is that one of the squids and the cat were both in the GEO military, by different routes, and hooked up together there. I was pondering how the various characters ought to get along. **** Hmm.... I smell a riot brewing in Brighton in the near future of my campaign.... ** Hehehe... Glad to be of service! :) -C -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.