From: utiel@df.ufscar.br Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 6:06 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - [FWD] TV Series: Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, SeaQuest and Se aQuest 2032 Voyage to the Bottom of the sea was fantastic, but SeaQuest I don't like. The new SeaQuest 2032 I never watched. In general there aren't many good movies or shows related with oceans. Wagner > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Robert N. Emerson" > > To: > > Subject: TV Series: Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, SeaQuest > > and SeaQuest 2032 > > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:57:40 -0700 > > > > Alright, > > > > Out of curiosity, what do you all think of these shows? > > > > I'm asking since, when I was little, Voyage to the > > Bottom of the Sea was > > one of my favorite repeats - if it was not for my prideful > > nature, as well > > as unbending elitism while in school, I would have tried to > > become a Oceanic > > Biologist, or Geologist. > > > > Now I must admit, I liked both incarnations of SeaQuest > > (even with their > > poor usage of Lucas as a sea born Wesley Crusher) as both a > > peaceful show, > > in the beginning, and a more militaristic show in it's "2032" return. > > > > I was put more onto this thought this morning when both > > shows, Voyage and > > Seaquest 2032, were on the Sci-Fi channel and I watched them > > - although 5am > > is damn early. > > > > Remember the original "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" > > in which they used > > one of the now erroneous worries of atomic tests - ignition of the > > ionosphere? > > > > Anyhow, let me know your thoughts. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Robert N. Emerson > > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 5:55 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question Hello, This is a little bit off-topic but I was wondering if you good people could help me with something. I've got to write an essay at the moment on "Why do Earthlings colonise Mars?" for a Science Fiction course. I've got a fairly good list already, but I was wondering if anyone could suggest could sources to use. Either books, comics, films, television or radio. I think I've got some of the more obvious ones already (So yes, I *have* read Kim Stanley Robinson's books, before I get a hundred messages suggesting those) but anything you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jason if only they would let me use RPGs... *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: William Timmins [wtimmins@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 6:30 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - [FWD] TV Series: Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, SeaQuest and Se aQuest 2032 Seaquest, IMO, was great for about a season. Then some mutant space virus seems to have infected the writers. They went from a political, reasonably realistic near-future show to pulp stupidity (IMO!) Frex, originally they had rather standard assault rifles. Then they changed it to 'laser weapons'. Why? I guess it 'looks cool'. And they had man-eating plants. Giant crocs. Ghosts, psychics, aliens... Feh. Yeah, I _like_ Michael Ironside a lot, but the writing was silly. (Yes, they had psychics near the beginning, but it was handled a lot more gracefully) -=Will _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:41 AM To: 'list, blue planet' Subject: [FWD] RE: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > -----Original Message----- > Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:16:05 -0000 > From: "Gareth Hanrahan" > To: > > > This is a little bit off-topic but I was wondering > > if you good people could help me with something. I've got > > to write an essay at the moment on "Why do Earthlings > > colonise Mars?" for a Science Fiction course. I've got a > > fairly good list already, but I was wondering if anyone > > could suggest could sources to use. Either books, comics, > > films, television or radio. > > Try Kim Stanley Robins...oh... > >I think I've got some of the > > more obvious ones already (So yes, I *have* read Kim > > Stanley Robinson's books, before I get a hundred messages > > suggesting those) but anything you can offer would be > > greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > Erm. How about any of the Earth-is-critically-overpopulated books - > colonising Mars to relieve population pressure is a > possibility. I tried > hacking my way through Stand on Zanzibar (author escapes me at the > moment). > > > Jason > Gar > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:11 AM To: 'list, blue planet' Subject: [FWD] RE: [BLUE PLANET] - [FWD] TV Series: Voyage to the Bottom o f the Sea, SeaQuest and Se aQuest 2032 > -----Original Message----- > From: "Robert N. Emerson" > To: > Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - [FWD] TV Series: Voyage to the > Bottom of the Sea, SeaQuest and Se aQuest 2032 > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:07:23 -0700 > > I agree, > > ...since initially some of the more fringe, or para, > elements were there, > but handled a lot better then they were in later days. > > The only thing I liked from the later shows, the 2032 > ones, was the 'Lucas' > character became less niave and more realistic in that he no > longer 'bought' > the UEO's hype and PR. > > Michael Ironside needs a series of his own, Sci-Fi of > course, since he just > fits the more 'gruff bastard' in the genre. > > Robert N. Emerson > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com > [mailto:owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com]On Behalf Of William Timmins > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 5:30 AM > To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - [FWD] TV Series: Voyage to the Bottom of > the Sea, SeaQuest and Se aQuest 2032 > > > Seaquest, IMO, was great for about a season. Then some mutant > space virus > seems to have infected the writers. > > They went from a political, reasonably realistic near-future > show to pulp > stupidity (IMO!) > > Frex, originally they had rather standard assault rifles. > Then they changed > it to 'laser weapons'. Why? I guess it 'looks cool'. > And they had man-eating plants. Giant crocs. Ghosts, > psychics, aliens... > > > Feh. > > Yeah, I _like_ Michael Ironside a lot, but the writing was silly. > > (Yes, they had psychics near the beginning, but it was > handled a lot more > gracefully) > > -=Will > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ************************************************************** > ************* > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:24 AM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Hockley [mailto:jh39@ukc.ac.uk] > Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > > Hello, > This is a little bit off-topic but I was wondering > if you good people could help me with something. I've got > to write an essay at the moment on "Why do Earthlings > colonise Mars?" for a Science Fiction course. I've got a > My first suggestion is to get him or her to stop referring to the inhabitants of this planet as "earthlings" (try "Terrans"). > fairly good list already, but I was wondering if anyone > greatly appreciated. Thanks. > I would suggest that the reasons to colonize another planet wouldn't differ greatly from the reasons Europeans colonized the New World or the South Pacific. 1. Land to expand (population) 2. Space to ship dissidents to 3. More resources (once you exhaust the local resources) 4. New kinds of resources ... The major difference would be the expense in moving the necessary resources from Earth to Mars. Jim From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:24 AM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Hockley [mailto:jh39@ukc.ac.uk] > Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > > Hello, > This is a little bit off-topic but I was wondering > if you good people could help me with something. I've got > to write an essay at the moment on "Why do Earthlings > colonise Mars?" for a Science Fiction course. I've got a > My first suggestion is to get him or her to stop referring to the inhabitants of this planet as "earthlings" (try "Terrans"). > fairly good list already, but I was wondering if anyone > greatly appreciated. Thanks. > I would suggest that the reasons to colonize another planet wouldn't differ greatly from the reasons Europeans colonized the New World or the South Pacific. 1. Land to expand (population) 2. Space to ship dissidents to 3. More resources (once you exhaust the local resources) 4. New kinds of resources ... The major difference would be the expense in moving the necessary resources from Earth to Mars. Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Voidmind [bitterreign@bitterreign.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:40 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question From: "Heivilin, Jim" > I would suggest that the reasons to colonize another planet wouldn't differ > greatly from the reasons Europeans colonized the New World or the South > Pacific. > > 1. Land to expand (population) > 2. Space to ship dissidents to > 3. More resources (once you exhaust the local resources) > 4. New kinds of resources And 5 The Drive to explore.. it seems to be in our blood *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: eric baierl [ebaierl@csd.uwm.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:43 AM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Heivilin, Jim wrote: > 1. Land to expand (population) > 2. Space to ship dissidents to > 3. More resources (once you exhaust the local resources) > 4. New kinds of resources > ... While not very definitive, one of the biggest reasons is actually "Because we can". There may be reasons behind it afterwards, like was said above, the main reason now for sending anything, besides the scientific knowledge, is simply cause we can do it. eric baierl *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:44 AM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > -----Original Message----- > From: Voidmind [mailto:bitterreign@bitterreign.com] > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > From: "Heivilin, Jim" > > I would suggest that the reasons to colonize another planet wouldn't > > Pacific. > > 1. Land to expand (population) > > 2. Space to ship dissidents to > > 3. More resources (once you exhaust the local resources) > > 4. New kinds of resources > > And 5 The Drive to explore.. it seems to be in our blood > It would make a reasonable base from which to push further out into the system. And more easily constructed and *slightly* less dangerous than an orbital staging base. Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Myles Corcoran [myles@irls3101.ck.cit.alcatel.fr] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:02 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Why go to Mars? "Heivilin, Jim" wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:16:05 -0000 > > From: "Gareth Hanrahan" > > To: > > Erm. How about any of the Earth-is-critically-overpopulated books - > > colonising Mars to relieve population pressure is a > > possibility. I tried > > hacking my way through Stand on Zanzibar (author escapes me at the > > moment). John Brunner. I don't buy an over-population scenario as a driving force for Martian colonizing. There's way too many of us here already to make shipping some people to Mars a feasible plan. People will go to Mars because they can, because they don't like the folks back home, because there's money to be made on Mars, and for hundreds of other little reasons. Hell, there's views on Mars you can't get on Earth, ain't that reason enough for the seasoned traveller? Myles -- Myles Corcoran Alcatel Ireland Ltd. Bandon, Cork, Ireland | (home) : (+353) 021 4503904 "Man invented language to satisfy his | (work) : (+353) 023 20469 deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin | (fax) : (+353) 023 20481 *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: necrobob [necrobob@mail.compfxnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:09 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: eric baierl Reply-To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:42:52 -0600 (CST) >While not very definitive, one of the biggest reasons is actually >"Because we can". There may be reasons behind it afterwards, like was said >above, the main reason now for sending anything, besides the scientific >knowledge, is simply cause we can do it. Not to be cranky and disagreeable, but that whole "because we can/human adventurous spirit" is largely publicity hype. Most of our expansions into the unknown (such as it was) have been for more mundane reasons, like getting away from folks who burn us at the stake and finding more resources or weird stuff we can sell to the folks back home at a high markup. Colonization of the Americas? Well, first, the Spanish et al were hunting those ever-elusive golden butt nuggets of mineral they thought the natives had. Then the British, French, et al came- some of them escaping the popular hunts for heretics, the rest looking for other resources to exploit and land to farm, since real estate back home cost (proportionally) slightly less than the national debt. And so on and so forth. The American expansion to the West? Well, aside from the pleasures to be had in raping the land and pushing around the Native Americans (which is, of course, always a kick), we had the search for farmland, timber, bison furs, and other assorted goodies, depending on the time you asked. And probably (like with the Mormons) a good bit of the religious pilgrimage/wanting to get away from the heathens. More recently, our expansion into space? Is this International Space Station a monument to pure science, dedicated to studying the universe? Sorry. The biggest part of the funding comes from countries wanting to investigate the possibility of manufacturing rare/delicate items in zero-gee. The study of the universe's infinite mysteries (and believe me, they are infinite) is secondary to the earthbound realities of the Allmighty Dollah. Even now, we can't get away from the fact that exploration is always about something more than just the altruistic goals of manifest destiny and the human spirit of exploration. There it is, my just-slightly-cynical short history of human exploration. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: kabael@softhome.net Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:40 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Overpopulation (was: Why go to Mars?) > John Brunner. I don't buy an over-population scenario > as a driving force for Martian colonizing. There's way too many > of us here already to make shipping some people to Mars a > feasible plan. That was something that I really enjoyed about Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy, that they actually addressed that. There are just too many people on Earth and too few people can make the trip to Mars for it to actually have an effect - but people are likely to talk about it anyway, if only for the psychological impact and to be able to say "Look! We're doing something to releive overpopulation!" Derek Guder - kabael@softhome.net - ICQ# 24193592 Hope springs eternal like a persistent weed *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:15 PM To: 'list, blue planet' Subject: [FWD] RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Why go to Mars? > -----Original Message----- > From: "Robert N. Emerson" > To: > Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Why go to Mars? > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:51:45 -0700 > > I both concure and disagree at the same time, > > ..since the colonization factor is both a heavy > favorite as an option, as > well as a less likely option - however this is, mainly, going to be > determined by how 'hops' to Mars happen and who control them. > > If initial colonization of Mars is done on a > governmental scale, either as > a global effort or a national one, then the focus will be a > mix of science, > PR, and expansion of power, et al. > > If it's commerical, via various Companies (Mega or > otherwise), then the > focus will be more on profit and what mars can do for the > home company. > > The big difference is one will be more idealistic, > while the other > (obviously) is more capitalistic - both have strong and weak points. > > Governmental Colonization: Ideals are strong, but > tainted by various > caveats and goals of parent governments, individual agendas and other > factors - this option is also the most likely to have a > 'rebellion' forming > a new nation-state. Moving Mars, by far, is an excellent > example of this > (Greg Bear, I think, is the author). > > Industrial/Commercial Colonization: Money is the > motivator, no true ideals > outside of widening the profit margin and expanding patents - > rebellion is > also an option, but more for a move to an independant > corperation and/or > profit ideals. > > The biggest issue with colonization is distance, since > people (by nature) > start to feel the leash on their lives from a master (controlling > government) and want to revolt against such distant > domination - depending, > of course, on the nature of relationship between rulers and the ruled. > > Anyhow, just my two cents.. > > Robert N. Emerson > > p.s. Is all my stuff being forwarded? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com > [mailto:owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com]On Behalf Of Myles Corcoran > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:02 AM > To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com > Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Why go to Mars? > > > "Heivilin, Jim" wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:16:05 -0000 > > > From: "Gareth Hanrahan" > > > To: > > > > Erm. How about any of the > Earth-is-critically-overpopulated books - > > > colonising Mars to relieve population pressure is a > > > possibility. I tried > > > hacking my way through Stand on Zanzibar (author escapes me at the > > > moment). > > John Brunner. I don't buy an over-population scenario > as a driving force for Martian colonizing. There's way too many > of us here already to make shipping some people to Mars a > feasible plan. People will go to Mars because they can, because > they don't like the folks back home, because there's money to > be made on Mars, and for hundreds of other little reasons. > Hell, there's views on Mars you can't get on Earth, ain't that > reason enough for the seasoned traveller? > > Myles > > -- > Myles Corcoran Alcatel Ireland Ltd. Bandon, Cork, Ireland > | (home) : (+353) 021 4503904 > "Man invented language to satisfy his | (work) : (+353) 023 20469 > deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin | (fax) : (+353) 023 20481 > ************************************************************** > ************* > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Napoleon48@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:47 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question Try Ben Bova's "Mars" *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 3:21 PM To: 'list, blue planet' Subject: [FWD] RE: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > -----Original Message----- > From: "Robert N. Emerson" > To: > Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:06:22 -0700 > > Actually, > > ...I'm reading that right now - with Return to Mars and > Privateers in the > wings. > > Robert N. Emerson > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com > [mailto:owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com]On Behalf Of > Napoleon48@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:47 PM > To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question > > > Try Ben Bova's "Mars" > ************************************************************** > ************* > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Troy Gustavel [troy_nevermore@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:34 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Overpopulation (was: Why go to Mars?) > > John Brunner. I don't buy an over-population scenario > > as a driving force for Martian colonizing. There's way too many > > of us here already to make shipping some people to Mars a > > feasible plan. Yes, but if the drive is coming from the private sector, the drive will not be to releive pressure here on earth but the colonists going to mars (or whereever) will be getting away from overcrowding here. The drive to colonise the new world didn't do "much" to releive overcrowding in - say - england, but overcrowding was a driving force nevertheless ===== Troy Gustavel 5825 Bolender Rd. Akron, OH 44319 (330)882 5468 Troy_Nevermore@Yahoo.com "Once upon a midnight dreary..." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Atti2dboy@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:04 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - A Martian question Hello Jason, Without access to my library, these are all the sources that I could come up with: Books: Mars Prime by William C. Dietz The Sands of Mars by Arthur C. Clarke The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury Rainbow Mars by Larry Niven. Some of his Known Space books deal with Mars and attempted colonization. Internet: http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/niven_mars_000316.html Movies: Red Planet Mission to Mars The Angry Red Planet Robinson Crusoe on Mars The Martian Chronicles Radio: Free Space I hope that this helps. I personally think that space will be colonized by groups on the fringe of society. People who are alienated due to their religious, political, or social beliefs. Rich In a message dated 3/21/01 3:02:46 AM, jh39@ukc.ac.uk writes: >Hello, > This is a little bit off-topic but I was wondering >if you good people could help me with something. I've got >to write an essay at the moment on "Why do Earthlings >colonise Mars?" for a Science Fiction course. I've got a >fairly good list already, but I was wondering if anyone >could suggest could sources to use. Either books, comics, >films, television or radio. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Atti2dboy@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:15 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - [FWD] TV Series: Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, SeaQuest and Se aQuest 2032 Robert, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea is one of the shows that I was enthralled by when I was young, but have trouble watching now that I am old and jaded. I occasionally try to catch a re-run, but either I am hopelsssly critical, or the episodes I have seen recently are not some of the best. I enjoyed watching VBS whenever possible, and wish that I had the time and inclination to watch the re-runs. I watched the pilot of Seaquest DSV and the first half of season one. I liked the technology, and the setting. I definitely lost interest in the second season when more extravagant science fiction was introduced. Luckily I missed the episodes in which the Seaquest was transported to another world to fight a war. I had high hopes for Seaquest 2032. Michael Ironside has a been a favorite actor of mine for decades. Unfortunately I found the storylines uninteresting. 2032 was like an animated corpse of Seaquest. It outwardly resembled the original series, but there was no life there. By now I am sure that Seaquest is well and truly dead, but I still hope that some inspired writer/director/producer will dig it out and dust it off again. Rich In a message dated 3/20/01 2:09:53 PM,"Robert N. Emerson" writes: >> Alright, >> >> Out of curiosity, what do you all think of these shows? >> >> I'm asking since, when I was little, Voyage to the >> Bottom of the Sea was >> one of my favorite repeats - if it was not for my prideful >> nature, as well >> as unbending elitism while in school, I would have tried to >> become a Oceanic >> Biologist, or Geologist. >> >> Now I must admit, I liked both incarnations of SeaQuest >> (even with their >> poor usage of Lucas as a sea born Wesley Crusher) as both a >> peaceful show, >> in the beginning, and a more militaristic show in it's "2032" return. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.