From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 10:03 AM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Who is running a campaign right now > -----Original Message----- > From: ChrisTheS [mailto:stormsurge@stormsurge.org] > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Who is running a campaign right now > > Washington state (Olympia), 2-4, weekly, V2, characters are > Hanover security special agents investigating recent > terrorist actions on Poseidon by Islamic fundamentalists. > Having just watched the TV version of "True Lies" combine with this thread started me wondering. Has anybody every done a terrorist scenario in which the terrorist AREN'T Muslim? Oh, say Bible thumping Baptists Anti-abortionist types (they blow things up too!)? Whatever happened to Bader Meinhoff too? Or the Red Brigade? How is it we've arrived at a place where the terrorists are always Muslim extremists? Just curious. Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Konstantin 'Kosta' Welke [blueplanet@fillibach.de] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 10:16 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - character sheets Hi everybody! I just wanted to know if anyone out there made some chracter sheets for blue planet v2. I think the ones from the players guide are pretty ugly. Kosta *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 10:10 AM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Deus Ex mod > -----Original Message----- > From: ChrisTheS [mailto:stormsurge@stormsurge.org] > Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Deus Ex mod > not, could I at least have some idea as to how many people > here play Deus Ex, so I know that I won't be expending my > I play FPSes. Right now the group at work is stuck (again) on Quake 3 although I like Unreal Tournament better (at least I do better at it). Deus Ex is on my "to play" list. Along with CounterStrike and Elite Forces. Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 2:53 PM To: 'list, blue planet' Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - [FWD]: Blue Planet supplement at printer I trimmed out the other news. Check the Fantasy Flight website if you're interested in the Diskwars news (http://www.diskwars.com). > -----Original Message----- > From: Darrell Hardy [mailto:diskwar@diskwars.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 2:14 PM > Subject: Fantasy Flight Update: Diskwars League season > closing, Blue Planet supplement at printer > > 03/28/01 > > Fantasy Flight Update: Diskwars League season closing, Blue Planet > supplement at printer > > The latest supplement for BLUE PLANET v2, NATURAL SELECTION, is at the > printer and will be available towards the end of April. > NATURAL SELECTION details the ecology of Poseidon and provides players > and moderators with all the information they need to run wilderness > adventures and play characters experienced in wilderness survival. > Swing by www.bpv2.com to read all about it! > Also take note that this isn't entirely a "monster manual" in the traditional sense of the term. According to Jeff there will be a *lot* of content which isn't necessarily "dangerous". Jim Jim Heivilin, Webmaster Biohazard Games http://www.biohazardgames.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 10:07 AM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Deus Ex mod > -----Original Message----- > From: ChrisTheS [mailto:stormsurge@stormsurge.org] > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Deus Ex mod > > You'd have to wait for me to free up some HD space and > modeling or graphics or level building and such. *chuckles* :/ > > RE: Well, level building's not too hard, actually... well, I > take that back: level building is a lot easier than it used to be. > Let's clarify a little. Yea, it's now pretty easy to make up a level. No, level-building isn't easy. At least not GOOD level building. Anyone can make a level nowadays. Making a level that's fun to play that people want to come back to again and again, that's VERY hard work. Especially for multiplayer. Jim "whose played around with the Half Life editor enough to know how easy to use it is and whose played enough bad levels to now how hard it is" *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Andrew Ragland [araglan@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:53 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Non-Muslim Terrorists Because these movies are made in America, and Americans in general are more afraid of the mujaheddin currently setting off bombs in the Middle East than any other group. The movies play to our fears. I thought we'd see more films with militia and survivalist types as the villains, but that seems to have blown over with very little impact on pop culture. Me, I'm working on a number of things for my campaign, which include mercenary terrorists who will strike at anybody for a price ("Professional Bombings R Us"), and an ultra-Orthodox Jewish group calling themselves sabras, who want to eliminate all the enemies of Israel throughout the universe. Andrew Ragland Information Hunter/Gatherer: Explorer, Mapmaker, Guide araglan@us.ibm.com t/l 348-6665 ph (847) 240-6665 Skytel 1731111 "It is our choices ... that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." -- A. Dumbledore "Heivilin, Jim" @lists.ient.com on 03/28/2001 10:02:37 AM Please respond to blue_planet@lists.ient.com Sent by: owner-blue_planet@lists.ient.com To: "'blue_planet@lists.ient.com'" cc: Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Who is running a campaign right now > -----Original Message----- > From: ChrisTheS [mailto:stormsurge@stormsurge.org] > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Who is running a campaign right now > > Washington state (Olympia), 2-4, weekly, V2, characters are > Hanover security special agents investigating recent > terrorist actions on Poseidon by Islamic fundamentalists. > Having just watched the TV version of "True Lies" combine with this thread started me wondering. Has anybody every done a terrorist scenario in which the terrorist AREN'T Muslim? Oh, say Bible thumping Baptists Anti-abortionist types (they blow things up too!)? Whatever happened to Bader Meinhoff too? Or the Red Brigade? How is it we've arrived at a place where the terrorists are always Muslim extremists? Just curious. Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Stephen Mutka [stevemutka@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 8:34 PM To: Blue Planet List Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Test Move on, nothing to see here... Steve *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Brian McNeilly [brian.mcneilly@altus-solutions.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:07 PM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site Anyone else having trouble seeing the FFG BPV2 web site in Netscape? (I'm running version 4.7) All I get is a blank screen. Cheers, Brian Brian McNeilly, Software Designer Altus Solutions Incorporated Suite 250, 4190 Still Creek Drive Burnaby, BC, Canada, V5C 6C6 mailto:brian.mcneilly@altus-solutions.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:42 PM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian McNeilly [mailto:brian.mcneilly@altus-solutions.com] > Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site > > Anyone else having trouble seeing the FFG BPV2 web site in > Netscape? (I'm running version 4.7) All I get is a blank screen. > I can see it okay. http://www.bpv2.com And I noticed this http://www.bpv2.com/bppreview.pdf Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:48 PM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Hmmmm http://www.battlebots.com/battlebots_detail.asp?ID=27 Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Stephen Mutka [stevemutka@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:03 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Hmmmm Yeah, I saw that on Comedy Central back in December. I figured it was just a coincidence... Steve "Heivilin, Jim" wrote: > > http://www.battlebots.com/battlebots_detail.asp?ID=27 > > Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: kabael@softhome.net Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:06 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - [FWD]: Blue Planet supplement at printer You know, I was just thinking about this the other day. I'm so used to having Blue Planet supplements be a nebuluous dream that I'd forgotten that we actually have an agressive release schedule. I can't wait for this one! Derek Guder - kabael@softhome.net - ICQ# 24193592 Hope springs eternal like a persistent weed *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: David R. Crowell [gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 4:46 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - -ping- ........................................................... ....................................... Sorry, I think a link is down, I haven't gotten any messages for 3 days, including the ones I've sent. The more I think about the miniatures question, the better I like the Cardboard Heroes idea. It allows for easy inclusion of vehicles, remotes, cetacean characters, deepsea mining suits and other subjects that might be difficult to do with conventional minatures. It also keeps the cost down. --dave *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Paul Lesack [lesack@interchange.ubc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:32 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site I can't see it either. I can look at the code for the index page, though. Perhaps it has something to do with > Anyone else having trouble seeing the FFG BPV2 web site in Netscape? (I'm > running version 4.7) All I get is a blank screen. > > Cheers, > Brian > > Brian McNeilly, Software Designer > Altus Solutions Incorporated > Suite 250, 4190 Still Creek Drive > Burnaby, BC, Canada, V5C 6C6 > mailto:brian.mcneilly@altus-solutions.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:40 PM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - -ping- > -----Original Message----- > From: David R. Crowell [mailto:gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] > Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - -ping- > > ........................................................... > ....................................... > PING www.biohazardgames.com: (216.121.13.98): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 216.121.13.98: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=183 ms 64 bytes from 216.121.13.98: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=211 ms 64 bytes from 216.121.13.98: icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=190 ms 64 bytes from 216.121.13.98: icmp_seq=3 ttl=47 time=136 ms 64 bytes from 216.121.13.98: icmp_seq=4 ttl=47 time=110 ms 64 bytes from 216.121.13.98: icmp_seq=5 ttl=47 time=111 ms ----www.biohazardgames.com PING Statistics---- 6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 110/156/211 ms Sorry. A sysadmin joke. > Sorry, I think a link is down, I haven't gotten any messages > for 3 days, including the ones I've sent. > Yes it seems like the list was down since early last week but appears to be up now. Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Greg Benage [gbenage@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:07 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian McNeilly" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:07 AM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site > Anyone else having trouble seeing the FFG BPV2 web site in Netscape? (I'm > running version 4.7) All I get is a blank screen. I'm told you need to upgrade to version 6 (the latest, I think). Apparently, there are three frames on the page, and older versions of Netscape choke on more than two. Or something like that. ;) Greg FFG *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Paul Lesack [lesack@interchange.ubc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:10 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site Greg Benage wrote: > > I'm told you need to upgrade to version 6 (the latest, I think). > Apparently, there are three frames on the page, and older versions of > Netscape choke on more than two. Or something like that. ;) > > Greg > FFG That's a pretty bad idea. By requiring the newest software, you'll cut off a sizeable portion of your online clientele. I'm not upgrading to Netscape 6 because it runs like a pig. And at work, we're not upgrading because of software compatibility issues. Almost all of the students (and UBC is a big university) are using Netscape 4.x. I'm pretty sure UBC isn't the only university to do this. Fortunately, I know enough about how it all works to actually view the FFG stuff. But it doesn't exactly thrill me to dig through the source code looking for file names. Getting plugins is one thing. Upgrading your browser is another. Paul *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Greg Benage [gbenage@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:43 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Lesack" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site > That's a pretty bad idea. I'll pass that along to the web guy. Greg FFG *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Brian McNeilly [brian.mcneilly@altus-solutions.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:30 PM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site Agreed! If your web page isn't backwards compatible then you will lose a large portion of your audience. If you feel you need to use features that are only supported by the latest versions of browsers, then you should at least create a "lite" version of the site that people with older browsers can view. Here at work, it is very unlikely that we will upgrade (sadly I can't request this just to look at the BP site), so I am now cut off from the BP site. :( Brian Brian McNeilly, Software Designer Altus Solutions Incorporated Suite 250, 4190 Still Creek Drive Burnaby, BC, Canada, V5C 6C6 mailto:brian.mcneilly@altus-solutions.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Lesack [mailto:lesack@interchange.ubc.ca] > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:10 PM > To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site > > > Greg Benage wrote: > > > > I'm told you need to upgrade to version 6 (the latest, I think). > > Apparently, there are three frames on the page, and older > versions of > > Netscape choke on more than two. Or something like that. ;) > > > > Greg > > FFG > > That's a pretty bad idea. By requiring the newest software, you'll cut > off a sizeable portion of your online clientele. I'm not upgrading to > Netscape 6 because it runs like a pig. And at work, we're not > upgrading > because of software compatibility issues. Almost all of the students > (and UBC is a big university) are using Netscape 4.x. I'm pretty sure > UBC isn't the only university to do this. > > Fortunately, I know enough about how it all works to actually view the > FFG stuff. But it doesn't exactly thrill me to dig through the source > code looking for file names. > > Getting plugins is one thing. Upgrading your browser is another. > > Paul *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: David R. Crowell [gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:49 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Fw: [BLUE PLANET] - Miniatures? ----- Original Message ----- From: David R. Crowell To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Miniatures? > The BP paper models are nice. I am a fan of that modelling medium to start. > As far as metal miniature go, I would like to see some 54mm personalities > perhaps. I am a fan of minatures gaming, but I am not sure that BP would be > enhanced by figures. Also given that many of them would be humans in modern > dress I am not convinced they would sell well. > > Perhaps Cardboard Heros ala Steve Jackson? > > --dave > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:55 PM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Lesack [mailto:lesack@interchange.ubc.ca] > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site > Greg Benage wrote: > > I'm told you need to upgrade to version 6 (the latest, I think). > > Apparently, there are three frames on the page, and older > > versions of Netscape choke on more than two. Or something > > like that. ;) > > Greg > > That's a pretty bad idea. By requiring the newest software, you'll cut > off a sizeable portion of your online clientele. > While in principle I agree with this, unfortunately as the language (html, xml, etc.) advances more and more web authors will make use of the newer features. And, also unfortunately, not all of them keep in mind that their readers may not have all the gee-whiz software that they have. As it gets easier and easier for people to code web pages, the technical know-how (or even programming ability/mindset) of web authors is slowly declining. So the impact of what they do may be escaping them. Keep in mind I'm speaking of web authors in general (and we all know how dangerous generalizations are) and not specifically about our (FFG's) web guru (who is one of the more technically minded web gurus around). So while I agree with what you're saying, the reality of the situation is such that newer browsers will eventually catch everyone and drag us kicking and screaming into their vision of the "future". > I'm not upgrading to Netscape 6 because it runs like a pig. > Having abandoned Netscape at the 4.7 mark because it "ran like a pig" I don't know what it's problems are or what to offer to overcome them. I'm using IE 5.5 (which isn't really any better than Netscape but seems to have fewer conflicts with the OS) and it showed me the page without a hiccup. Perhaps an older version of IE might help (although finding one may be problematic). > Fortunately, I know enough about how it all works to actually view the > FFG stuff. But it doesn't exactly thrill me to dig through the source > code looking for file names. > You might try taking a look at it with lynx or some other text-only browser. That *might* produce more acceptable results as far as locating content. Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Stephen Mutka [stevemutka@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:38 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site Well, I'm running 4.7, and I can see it just fine... Steve Greg Benage wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian McNeilly" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:07 AM > Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site > > > Anyone else having trouble seeing the FFG BPV2 web site in Netscape? > (I'm > > running version 4.7) All I get is a blank screen. > > I'm told you need to upgrade to version 6 (the latest, I think). > Apparently, there are three frames on the page, and older versions of > Netscape choke on more than two. Or something like that. ;) > > Greg > FFG > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Mike Czaplinski [mikec@busworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:18 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site At 12:10 PM 4/4/01 -0800, you wrote: >Greg Benage wrote: > > > > I'm told you need to upgrade to version 6 (the latest, I think). > > Apparently, there are three frames on the page, and older versions of > > Netscape choke on more than two. Or something like that. ;) > > > > Greg > > FFG > >That's a pretty bad idea. By requiring the newest software, you'll cut >off a sizeable portion of your online clientele. I'm not upgrading to >Netscape 6 because it runs like a pig. And at work, we're not upgrading >because of software compatibility issues. Almost all of the students >(and UBC is a big university) are using Netscape 4.x. I'm pretty sure >UBC isn't the only university to do this. I second the motion; I use Netscape 4.7 at work, 4.5 at home, and this is a VERY bad idea. I'm rather suprised that a company as net savvy as FFG would allow this to happen. MikeC, submerging again to the depths..... *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Ml10@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:55 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site (The problem is) The problem is that there is a /frameset tag that is missing. Netscape is very particular with the closing tags while IE isn't. Once the tag is included, the page works just fine with Netscape 4.7 Mike Z *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: ChrisTheS [stormsurge@stormsurge.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:35 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Who is running a campaign right now > Having just watched the TV version of "True Lies" combine with this thread > started me wondering. Has anybody every done a terrorist scenario in which > the terrorist AREN'T Muslim? Oh, say Bible thumping Baptists > Anti-abortionist types (they blow things up too!)? RE: We've done one where they're Russians and Chinese.. :) > > Whatever happened to Bader Meinhoff too? Or the Red Brigade? How is it > we've arrived at a place where the terrorists are always Muslim extremists? RE: Well, in this particular case it's because the adventure is based on a technothriller I read in which the terrorists were Iranian. Now I've turned it into an Illuminati campaign (well... I'm TRYING to turn it into an Illuminati campaign... the problem is that I made the mistake of letting the characters trade in the submarine they captured in the last adventure for a modified VTOL strike fighter, and now they're hiring themselves out as mercenaries...) -- ChrisTheS *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:01 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Deus Ex mod <> **** I play FPSes. Right now the group at work is stuck (again) on Quake 3 although I like Unreal Tournament better (at least I do better at it). ** I love Quake. Played it to death. Saw Quake 2, couldn't really stand it. It was .. different. It wasn't 'Quake' anymore.. they just used the same name. I gave Quake 3 a shot, but just kind of rolled my eyes and went back to Unreal Tournament ;) BTW, volatile ammo, volatile weapons, low G, the Relics and Chainsaw Melee on CTF 'Lava Giant' is supoib. 'Facing Worlds' too. **** Deus Ex is on my "to play" list. Along with CounterStrike and Elite Forces. ** MmmmmCounterstrike.... Thing is, I've been unable to play it since I moved back from Houston. In Houston, I played on a LAN with a dedicated T1 in an office with all my other teammates. We were, truthfully, killer, simply because we could communicate so easily and so well. Ditto with Starsiege Tribes; you really bring the strategy to FPS's (GOOD FPS's) when you go multiplayer with your teammates around you live. Speaking of which, does *anyone* do multiplayer 'Deus Ex'? I always wanted a multiplayer 'Thief', but with Looking Glass gone, well.. *shrugs* 'Deus Ex' is about the next best thing. --Charles -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:14 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Who is running a campaign right now **** Having just watched the TV version of "True Lies" combine with this thread started me wondering. Has anybody every done a terrorist scenario in which the terrorist AREN'T Muslim? Oh, say Bible thumping Baptists Anti-abortionist types (they blow things up too!)? Whatever happened to Bader Meinhoff too? Or the Red Brigade? How is it we've arrived at a place where the terrorists are always Muslim extremists? ** Thought crossed my mind as well. One interpretation I have to adapt from something my GM said - post-nuclear games just aren't as popular anymore. The Evil Empire is gone, communism is basically crumbling, nuclear holocaust is sort of passe. How about genetic warfare? Biological warfare? And what do we see on the news most lately? Muslims in the midst of trouble, whether they started it or not. The PLO is (or at least has been) synonymous with international terrorism. With communism waning, who are the biggest anti-West threats out there? Protestors inside the Western nations, and the more fundamental groups. Now, don't take me as the devil on this post. At my last job I worked with an ex-Hong Kong Christian Chinese, a guy whose parents were immigrated Hindus, another whose parents were immigrated Pakistani Muslim, our CFO was a Muslim as well, a second-generation Chinese Christian, a basically atheist German exchange student, and a white atheist. Me, I'm a white boy who doesn't subscribe to any of the existing religions myself. And hey, we all had a blast. We'd talk religion, lifestyles, everything without incident whatsoever. Interesting side note; I know an Israeli girl who went to university in Jerusalem. In her dorm, on the same floor in fact, were mix Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc. And life was almost entirely without incident. It's not always a large group of people - it's a particular type of individual which finds a group. Anyone see 'American History X'? My interpretation. *phew* I didn't mean to go off topic that much. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:45 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site **** That's a pretty bad idea. By requiring the newest software, you'll cut off a sizeable portion of your online clientele. I'm not upgrading to ** Nonono. That is in NO way a fault of the coders. I mean, cripes, if netscape 4.x can't handle 3 frames, it just can't handle 3 frames. Why dumb the site down for a percentage of the users when you could have something nice and spiffy for everyone else? And from someone who's monitored web access statistics for a site receiving over 100,000 hits a day, Netscape users are not that sizeable a portion. **** Netscape 6 because it runs like a pig. And at work, we're not upgrading because of software compatibility issues. Almost all of the students (and UBC is a big university) are using Netscape 4.x. I'm pretty sure UBC isn't the only university to do this. ** Similar note: Program A only runs under Windows 95+. Does that mean the company should still release Windows 3.x material just because a few people cling on to it? **** Getting plugins is one thing. Upgrading your browser is another. ** What do you do if you buy a $300 video card which your BIOS can't handle? Take back the video card and gripe, or download the flash upgrade? Deal with it. Things evolve. Should BioHazard keep releasing supplements for BP v1? -C -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: eric baierl [ebaierl@csd.uwm.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:22 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, chalz@earthlink.net wrote: > **** > That's a pretty bad idea. By requiring the newest software, you'll cut > off a sizeable portion of your online clientele. I'm not upgrading to > ** > Nonono. That is in NO way a fault of the coders. I mean, cripes, if netscape 4.x can't handle 3 frames, it just can't handle 3 frames. Why dumb the site down for a percentage of the users when you could have something nice and spiffy for everyone else? > And from someone who's monitored web access statistics for a site receiving over 100,000 hits a day, Netscape users are not that sizeable a portion. Even though this has gone way beyond the realm of Blue Planet, I'll comment since I am a web designer and do have to do this kind of crap every day. Unfortunately, web designers do have to code for the lowest common demonater. That means 640x480 resolution, NN 3.0 and IE 3.0. Yeah, it sucks, but thats the nature of the internet, you don't know what browser or system the user has, so you code it for the worst out there, and try to make it look good with that. So basically, if the page can't handle 3 frames, its not a netscape problem, its a problem with the code, I know netscape can handle frames, and it can handle a lot. > > **** > Netscape 6 because it runs like a pig. And at work, we're not upgrading > because of software compatibility issues. Almost all of the students > (and UBC is a big university) are using Netscape 4.x. I'm pretty sure > UBC isn't the only university to do this. > ** > Similar note: Program A only runs under Windows 95+. Does that mean the company should still release Windows 3.x material just because a few people cling on to it? Win 2k and ME are the newest OS's for windows. Go take a look at a brand new program, it will work with Win98, and probably even 95. And using an OS is a poor analogy. If I'm buying software, I'm going to buy it for MacOS 8.6 or earlier. But if I go to a website, it should work. Web pages are more universal. Its a bitch cogind them, but thats the way the internet is. eric baierl *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: ChrisTheS [stormsurge@stormsurge.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:39 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - FFG Web Site > Even though this has gone way beyond the realm of Blue Planet, I'll > comment since I am a web designer and do have to do this kind of crap > every day. Unfortunately, web designers do have to code for the lowest > common demonater. That means 640x480 resolution, NN 3.0 and IE 3.0. Yeah, > it sucks, but thats the nature of the internet, you don't know what > browser or system the user has, so you code it for the worst out there, > and try to make it look good with that. RE: Helps if we don't use very complicated code. I code for IE5, but it's only very occasionally that I use a 4.0+ browser convention ('course, most of my sites are optimized for my screen resolution, which is 1024x786, but I try to make it work in 800x600 as well if I can). -- ChrisTheS *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.