From: Dominic Mooney [dom@cybergoths.u-net.com] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 4:17 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - More on Synergy use/distrib Greg wrote: >Mexal> Greg said "No, the actual written expression of the rules is >protected by > > copyright. You cannot copy and distribute any part of the published work." > > > > While the first statement is absolutely correct, the second one is true >only > > if the copyright holder wishes it to be. That's Greg's right and I for one > > will be more than happy to respect it. > >This is true. And I'm not ruling out the possibility that the Synergy rules >will be released in some form under an open license. However, they aren't >covered by such right now, and as the co-owner of the property and an >employee of the licensee, it would be irresponsible of me to my partner and >my employer to take any other position. I hope everyone understands that. :) Absolutely. It's interesting that the Eternal Champion list has been discussing whether Chaosium should release a new version of Basic Roleplaying (their D100 system) following their first D20 release (Dragon Lords of Melnibone).... It looks like everyone wants their favourite system out for use in open gaming... Dom *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Dominic Mooney [dom@cybergoths.u-net.com] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 4:13 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: : [BLUE PLANET] - Site? On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:20:04 -0500 (CDT) Chad Chirhart wrote: >Probably just that Netscape problem reading html tags. Actually, if it's a missing tag (which ISTR was the point mentioned earlier) then it isn't a Netscape problem as such, it's a HTML code problem. It just happens that in some cases that IE is more robust with code problems... Dom *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Dr Ian McDonald [ian.mcdonald@iname.com] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 6:01 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Who is running a campaign right now I don't think the "terrorist, so it's Muslim" happens that much outside American media. I suspect that because there aren't that many Muslims in America, they are an easy group to use as villains. And they don't have a very high status: for example, politicians in the last batch of US elections *returned donations* from Muslim organisations. I hope that the ethnic groups at Jerusalem's universities are still getting along - things might have changed for the worse since your friend was there. (Not just the intifada - Israel did a "Bloody Sunday" on some Arab demonstrators. Except that the British version involved a biased inquiry after the fact and - probably - some IRA guns.) "chalz@earthlink.net" wrote: > > **** > Having just watched the TV version of "True Lies" combine with this thread > started me wondering. Has anybody every done a terrorist scenario in which > the terrorist AREN'T Muslim? Oh, say Bible thumping Baptists > Anti-abortionist types (they blow things up too!)? > > Whatever happened to Bader Meinhoff too? Or the Red Brigade? How is it > we've arrived at a place where the terrorists are always Muslim extremists? > ** > Thought crossed my mind as well. One interpretation I have to adapt from something my GM said - post-nuclear games just aren't as popular anymore. The Evil Empire is gone, communism is basically crumbling, nuclear holocaust is sort of passe. How about genetic warfare? Biological warfare? And what do we see on the news most lately? Muslims in the midst of trouble, whether they started it or not. The PLO is (or at least has been) synonymous with international terrorism. With communism waning, who are the biggest anti-West threats out there? Protestors inside the Western nations, and the more fundamental groups. > Now, don't take me as the devil on this post. At my last job I worked with an ex-Hong Kong Christian Chinese, a guy whose parents were immigrated Hindus, another whose parents were immigrated Pakistani Muslim, our CFO was a Muslim as well, a second-generation Chinese Christian, a basically atheist German exchange student, and a white atheist. Me, I'm a white boy who doesn't subscribe to any of the existing religions myself. And hey, we all had a blast. We'd talk religion, lifestyles, everything without incident whatsoever. > Interesting side note; I know an Israeli girl who went to university in Jerusalem. In her dorm, on the same floor in fact, were mix Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc. And life was almost entirely without incident. It's not always a large group of people - it's a particular type of individual which finds a group. Anyone see 'American History X'? > My interpretation. *phew* I didn't mean to go off topic that much. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at > http://www.mail2web.com/ . > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. -- Ian McDonald http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/alternative.html http://travel.to/startrekcolony - Star Trek: Colony site & .mov http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/who-rpg.html - Dr. Who RPGs *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: iceman@exlibris.freeserve.co.uk Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 3:13 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Who is running a campaign right now -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sometimes terrorists can have the most obscure reasons for doing things. In Scotland, in the 50's and 60's there were guys running around blowing up postboxes. The reason was that all new mail boxes had the stamp ER2 (or ERII I'm not quite sure) meaning Queen Elizabeth the Second. These patriots/terrorists objected since technically Great Britain never had a Queen Elizabeth the First. Feelings can run very deep and grudges can be held for a *very* long time. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr Ian McDonald" To: Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 4:00 AM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Who is running a campaign right now > I don't think the "terrorist, so it's Muslim" happens > that much outside American media. I suspect that because > there aren't that many Muslims in America, they are an > easy group to use as villains. And they don't have a very > high status: for example, politicians in the last batch > of US elections *returned donations* from Muslim > organisations. > > I hope that the ethnic groups at Jerusalem's universities > are still getting along - things might have changed for > the worse since your friend was there. (Not just the > intifada - Israel did a "Bloody Sunday" on some Arab > demonstrators. Except that the British version involved a > biased inquiry after the fact and - probably - some IRA > guns.) > > "chalz@earthlink.net" wrote: > > > > **** > > Having just watched the TV version of "True Lies" > > combine with this thread started me wondering. Has > > anybody every done a terrorist scenario in which the > > terrorist AREN'T Muslim? Oh, say Bible thumping > > Baptists Anti-abortionist types (they blow things up > > too!)? > > > > Whatever happened to Bader Meinhoff too? Or the Red > > Brigade? How is it we've arrived at a place where the > > terrorists are always Muslim extremists? ** > > Thought crossed my mind as well. One interpretation > > I have to adapt from something my GM said - > > post-nuclear games just aren't as popular anymore. The > > Evil Empire is gone, communism is basically crumbling, > > nuclear holocaust is sort of passe. How about genetic > > warfare? Biological warfare? And what do we see on > > the news most lately? Muslims in the midst of trouble, > > whether they started it or not. The PLO is (or at > > least has been) synonymous with international > > terrorism. With communism waning, who are the biggest > > anti-West threats out there? Protestors inside the > > Western nations, and the more fundamental groups. > > Now, don't take me as the devil on this post. At my > > last job I worked with an ex-Hong Kong Christian > > Chinese, a guy whose parents were immigrated Hindus, > > another whose parents were immigrated Pakistani Muslim, > > our CFO was a Muslim as well, a second-generation > > Chinese Christian, a basically atheist German exchange > > student, and a white atheist. Me, I'm a white boy who > > doesn't subscribe to any of the existing religions > > myself. And hey, we all had a blast. We'd talk > > religion, lifestyles, everything without incident > > whatsoever. > > Interesting side note; I know an Israeli girl who > > went to university in Jerusalem. In her dorm, on the > > same floor in fact, were mix Christian, Jew, Muslim, > > etc. And life was almost entirely without incident. > > It's not always a large group of people - it's a > > particular type of individual which finds a group. > > Anyone see 'American History X'? > > My interpretation. *phew* I didn't mean to go off > > topic that much. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOtqpols/Q8kFa+f4EQJTnwCeP6eVkIC4DLsiT1Az91+mu6ATH7IAoJBW 9N4ziPnnFLyQe+TktcBTXEfD =XDKV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 9:47 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - More on Synergy use/distrib **** >This is true. And I'm not ruling out the possibility that the Synergy rules >will be released in some form under an open license. However, they aren't >covered by such right now, and as the co-owner of the property and an >employee of the licensee, it would be irresponsible of me to my partner and >my employer to take any other position. I hope everyone understands that. :) It looks like everyone wants their favourite system out for use in open gaming... ** My GM and I have talked a little on this since the last such post, and we think that a sort of booklet of the Synergy rules would be most excellent. I dono, like a $7 booklet or whatever, with the base Synergy rules. That way you could write up material for a game and say "For the gaming rules, buy the booklet here." I dono about anyone else, but if that were the case for me, I'd be more likely to buy the cheaper booklet than the whole BP book. It's light, it's simple, and it's already been produced and published. No original material to put in, only a hair of editing. No sweat. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.