From: Ml10@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:57 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP Hi Folks, It looks like the B-PIP experiment is failing. After an initial rush on the first day, it has been rather dead. So far, only 4 people have participated and I have been the only person to add any new data in the last 2 days and I have also been busy trying to complete the output functions (which are turning out to be more complicated than I thought). If I can't get the hardcore fans on the mailing list to help out, then the odds of more people jumping in to help once it is announced to the general world is slim. Given that if every person on the mailing list adds just 1 new entry a day, the index would grow at an extreme rate, I ask the following question: What would it take to get you to help out ? Mike Z *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Greg Benage [gbenage@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:39 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Walker" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:00 AM Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection > Ancient Echoes = Rising Song? The titles seem similar but different. Ancient Echoes = Rising Song = Us trying to decide what to call the cetacean sourcebook... Greg FFG *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Stephen Mutka [stevemutka@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:50 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection Greg Benage wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Walker" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:00 AM > Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection > > > Ancient Echoes = Rising Song? The titles seem similar but different. > > Ancient Echoes = Rising Song = Us trying to decide what to call the cetacean > sourcebook... How about "Whalesong?" Seems like a logical choice... Steve *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Luke Walker [luke.walker@izardweston.co.nz] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:41 AM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection Cheers Greg -----Original Message----- From: Greg Benage [SMTP:gbenage@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, 4 May 2001 17:39 To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Walker" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:00 AM Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection > Ancient Echoes = Rising Song? The titles seem similar but different. Ancient Echoes = Rising Song = Us trying to decide what to call the cetacean sourcebook... Greg FFG *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Stephen Mutka [stevemutka@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:35 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP Hey Mike, I have every intention to going back to indexing now and then; for the past couple of days I've been dealing with other stuff. Then again, if it turns out I'm the only one spending any real time at it, I'll lose interest pretty quickly, even with bribes... Take care, Steve Ml10@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > It looks like the B-PIP experiment is failing. After an initial rush on the > first day, it has been rather dead. So far, only 4 people have participated > and I have been the only person to add any new data in the last 2 days and I > have also been busy trying to complete the output functions (which are > turning out to be more complicated than I thought). If I can't get the > hardcore fans on the mailing list to help out, then the odds of more people > jumping in to help once it is announced to the general world is slim. > > Given that if every person on the mailing list adds just 1 new entry a day, > the index would grow at an extreme rate, I ask the following question: What > would it take to get you to help out ? > > Mike Z > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Megan C. Robertson [mcrobertson@phoenix.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:49 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP Greetings Mike. You asked what would get us to help out.... Time :-) As it happens it's on the schedule for this morning... I was just thinking it was a good idea to add a few more entries for you. It sort of builds well with the conversion to HTML for my own use that I do with most game material (only I do my indexing the hard way, eidetic memory helps!). Hugs and kisses, Mexal. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: kabael@softhome.net Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:05 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP > Given that if every person on the mailing list adds just 1 new entry a day, > the index would grow at an extreme rate, I ask the following question: What > would it take to get you to help out ? It's more a matter of me just not having much time right now. I'll try to bring a BP book with me to work and add stuff, but I can't guarantee I won't be distracted by the joys of anime and IRC... Derek Guder - kabael@softhome.net - ICQ# 24193592 Hope springs eternal like a persistent weed *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Mike Czaplinski [mikec@busworks.com] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 4:31 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection At 12:39 AM 5/4/01 -0500, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Luke Walker" >To: >Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:00 AM >Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection > > > > Ancient Echoes = Rising Song? The titles seem similar but different. > >Ancient Echoes = Rising Song = Us trying to decide what to call the cetacean >sourcebook... Dol-phins! Dol-phins! Dol-phins! Dol-phins! MikeC, who wants 'phin stuff almost as much as he wants Abbo stuff...... *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: thazar@globalnet.co.uk Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 4:30 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Getting Players Interested (was: World of Hurt) >> I have had zero luck in getting anyone...ANYONE... >I must say, I just don't understand that all. Likewise:- My local gamestore owner used to witter on about v1 but as he never had it in stock no-one bit. However I read a review online a couple of months back....surfed on in to the FFG page and took a look...SOLD. Ordered a full set of books.....from my local store of course.... 5 Minutes of my discussing the world/background and my entire gaming club was sold and q'ing to pick up Players Books......I cant think of a game that was SOLD so quickly before. On previous games players ummmed and ahhed about and waited for the local club to buy a 'players copy' if the game became established or maybe if they really liked it picked up a copy in a sale or birthdays/Cristmas....BP was just SOLD. Having said that my intial reaction was 'Cyber Punk on a Water World? Hmmm I already have CP2020 and Shadowrun....and CyberPirates for SR covers it all' I was after a rules lite game with the Feel of Peter Hamilton's Night's Dawn to run at a local club where people dont want to absorb huge amounts of rules....as oposed to private games...and BP is IT! The Other factor was the Hard Science....I am a die hard Traveller fan but dont want to take even the reprints out of my house anymore..... DomT ------------------------------------------------ Global WebMail - Delivered by Global Internet www.global.net.uk ------------------------------------------------ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: thazar@globalnet.co.uk Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 4:35 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection >Natural Selection is the best supplement I've ever bought. I used it to >describe the jungle around Leeshore tonight >and the group loved it. from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com >with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > ARGGGGGHHHHH My players have just touched down in a Jungle clearing on a Search and Rescue mission.......a hike through the Jungle is require to get to a remote crash site.....AND I DONT HAVE NS YET!!!!!!!! Where can I get a copy in the UK? DomT ------------------------------------------------ Global WebMail - Delivered by Global Internet www.global.net.uk ------------------------------------------------ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: David R. Crowell [gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:27 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Getting Players Interested (was: World of Hurt) Remind players also of just how small an area most people live their lives in. There are people in my neck of the woods who spend their entire lives in our rural county. How often do you leave the city or town where you live? When you do how far do you go? How many different destinations do you visit on a regular basis? The problem with most SF RPGs is an inflation of geograpy, each climate, ecozone, country, ethnic enclave etc becomes it's own planet. Think about the diversity of Earth, from equatorial rainforest to arctic tundra. Look at the many varried forms of government, language, religion, and skin color. Now compare this to the standard "Water World", "Desert Plantet", "Ice Planet" of most SF games. No wonder people are initially put off by BPs setting. They don't realize the depth that has been put into the background. ----- Original Message ----- From: Luke Walker To: Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 10:11 PM Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Getting Players Interested (was: World of Hurt) > I have come across a few people who are into Fading Suns and more far > future sci fi games who think that one world is a small setting especially > as it is a waterworld. However anyone who has read anything about the game > seems to be fine with the setting and realise the setting is actually > pretty roomy and flexible. Hey considering Tribe 8 95% is set on the > island of Montreal about 50 km across, Blue Planet is huge :) > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: David R. Crowell [gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:31 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP I haven't had time even to look at it yet. Give me a week or so and I'll see what I can do. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:57 AM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP > Hi Folks, > > Given that if every person on the mailing list adds just 1 new entry a day, > the index would grow at an extreme rate, I ask the following question: What > would it take to get you to help out ? > > Mike Z > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: David R. Crowell [gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:34 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection > > > > > Ancient Echoes = Rising Song? The titles seem similar but different. > > > >Ancient Echoes = Rising Song = Us trying to decide what to call the cetacean > >sourcebook... > > Dol-phins! Dol-phins! Dol-phins! Dol-phins! > > MikeC, who wants 'phin stuff almost as much as he wants Abbo stuff...... I don't care what you call it as long I can get a copy! dave who thinks the Aborigine sourcebook should be called "Octopuses' Garden"........... *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jason.hockley@skynet.be] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:56 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Folks, > > It looks like the B-PIP experiment is failing. After an initial rush on the > first day, it has been rather dead. So far, only 4 people have participated > and I have been the only person to add any new data in the last 2 days and I > have also been busy trying to complete the output functions (which are > turning out to be more complicated than I thought). If I can't get the > hardcore fans on the mailing list to help out, then the odds of more people > jumping in to help once it is announced to the general world is slim. Well I'm looking at it right now and to be honest I'm having a little trouble thinking of things that don't seem to be covered already. You've got a lot of the basics on there and it's presumably going to be details that people find as their games progress that go up later on. Incidentally, I take it this is only using the v2 books? I only ask because I have a list of page numbers and so forth for all the Access Denied sections in the v1 rulebook, Archipelago, Access Denied book and Undercurrents. I haven't updated it to 2nd edition yet though. Jason *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Andrew Sturman [andrew_b_sturman@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:51 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection HI All Thanks to all for the supercav torp links. I recall someone discussing these a few months ago, with a nice story seed of Atlas developing a supercav torp called the Djinn. Anyone want to own up to the idea and flesh it out? --- thazar@globalnet.co.uk wrote: > > Where can I get a copy in the UK? Dom, I'm pestering Leisure Games daily to get NS in ASAP. Drop Angus a line at shop@leisuregames.com, to make sure you get the 2nd copy off the boat. (The first one's MINE ;) Anyone from FFG know if NS has gone to the international distributors yet? Andrew Who's also really looking forward to the 'phin supplement. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: David R. Crowell [gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:24 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection > > > > > Ancient Echoes = Rising Song? The titles seem similar but different. > > > >Ancient Echoes = Rising Song = Us trying to decide what to call the cetacean > >sourcebook... > Ancient Echos seems to resonate with the Aborigines more than with Cetaceans, at least on Poseidon where cetaceans are also new comers. Rising Song doesn't seem quite as catchy. Whalesong while evocative suggests the great whales and those are extinct in the BP setting. If the cetacean sourcebook provides details on cetacean culture and history on Earth as well as Poseidon, then I would go with Ancient Echos. What ever the title you choose, please continue to keep BP cetaceans distinct from Brin's "Uplift" dolphins. I did not particularly care for his take, and have had a very hard time actually forcing myself to read any of the "Uplift" books. I enjoy some of his other works though, so don't put me down as a Brin-hating loonie. I am particulary interested in seeing an exploration of the contrast between cetaceans in the water, where they are perhaps evn more attuned to their environment than humans on land, and cetaceans operating via remotes and telepresence. How is this seeming dichotomy resolved in cetacean culture? *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Andrew Sturman [andrew_b_sturman@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:46 AM To: bplist Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Deep Angel HI All Just finished the supercav article on sciam.com, certainly one of the more exciting articles I've seen there :) At the end of it was the link to www.deepangel.com which neatly combines our supercav, deckplan and future aircraft carrier discussions with some lovely graphics. see http://www.deepangel.com/About_Deep_Angel/Tech%20Specs/techread.html for some near-future fightersub and carrier sub designs. Very BP meets Jovian Chronicles :) Andrew ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: thazar@globalnet.co.uk Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:39 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection >> Where can I get a copy in the UK? >Dom, I'm pestering Leisure Games daily to get NS in >ASAP. Thanks Andrew.....but I've already been hasseling LG (I always buy in stock items from my local store...but for those new realeases its LG allmost every time, allmost because I direct order from Chaosium via Wizzards Attic..) Dom ------------------------------------------------ Global WebMail - Delivered by Global Internet www.global.net.uk ------------------------------------------------ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Ml10@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:08 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP Hi Folks, If it is a time issue, I understand that. I really apperciate people putting in big spurts. The problem is that big spurts are hard to maintain over a long period of time. If I could get 100 people to enter in 1 item per day, I'd be very happy as the growth would be constant and I don't have to worry about people burning out. It is like the ad for various charities "For the price of a cup of coffee a day you can feed an entire village". If 100 spend 5 minutes per day to enter an item or two in the database, we would have very rapid growth. I am thinking about changing the bribe, I mean, prize structure. I'll still be awarding 3 BP book for this month's effort as that has already been promised. But would people be more willing to help out if I did a monthly raffle instead? For every X points, you would get an entry in the raffle and then at the end of the month I would draw one person and they would win the prize. Now for some answers to questions: << Well I'm looking at it right now and to be honest I'm having a little trouble thinking of things that don't seem to be covered already. You've got a lot of the basics on there and it's presumably going to be details that people find as their games progress that go up later on. >> There is plenty of stuff to cover : Weapons, settlements, NPCs, critters, environ types, planets, ect.... The idea is to get stuff included in multiple ways as everyone thinks differently. For example, I might look for information about jumpcraft under vehicles. Someone else might look under jumpcraft and someone else might look up Utilty Jumpcraft. So for a single Jumpcraft, there are 3 locations that it can be put. There isn't a size limit in the virutal world, so the index can grow extremely large. << Incidentally, I take it this is only using the v2 books?>> I am interested in th v2 books, Access Denied GM screen, and Undercurrents. Mike Z *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Adam Lewis [adamswork@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:16 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Getting Players Interested (was: World of Hurt) A lot of people don't like the idea of learning a new system. Even WotC saw this and all of their RPGs will be the D20 system. The first time i ran BP, we were big into Alternity, so I just used the BP setting for an Alternity game. That was enough to get them interested in learning the BP system. Buy the GM screen too..i couldn't keep it away from them, it's got to be the best looking GM screen ever. AdamL __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:35 AM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Motion Trackers > -----Original Message----- > From: Luke Walker [mailto:luke.walker@izardweston.co.nz] > Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Motion Trackers > Personal Motion Trackers could be made and would be extremely > powerful in the amount of detail you could pick up, if you > used the correct technology e.g. small wave Radar or something > (not changes in air pressue :)). You might even be able to > tell how many bullets a person has in their gun. > Keep in mind nearly all the components (including the bullets) of the BP handguns are made from plastic. And I suspect they're simply not dense enough to show up on radar except at extremely short ranges. Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: necrobob [necrobob@mail.compfxnet.com] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:32 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Stephen Mutka Reply-To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 01:50:00 -0400 >> Ancient Echoes = Rising Song = Us trying to decide what to call the cetacean >> sourcebook... > >How about "Whalesong?" Seems like a logical choice... I prefer "Rising Song". "Ancient Echoes" would make an excellent title for an aborigine/Creator sourcebook. -Necromancer Bob *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Greg Benage [gbenage@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:36 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:34 AM Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection > >Natural Selection is the best supplement I've ever bought. I used it to > >describe the jungle around Leeshore tonight > >and the group loved it. from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > >with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > > > ARGGGGGHHHHH > > My players have just touched down in a Jungle clearing on a Search and Rescue mission.......a hike through the Jungle is require to get to a remote crash site.....AND I DONT HAVE NS YET!!!!!!!! > > Where can I get a copy in the UK? The book shipped to Esdevium Distribution in the UK a couple weeks ago, so I assume it should be showing up on store shelves shortly. Greg FFG *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jason.hockley@skynet.be] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:51 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP ----- Original Message ----- > Now for some answers to questions: > << > Well I'm looking at it right now and to be honest I'm > having a little trouble thinking of things that don't seem > to be covered already. You've got a lot of the basics on > there and it's presumably going to be details that people > find as their games progress that go up later on. > >> > There is plenty of stuff to cover : Weapons, settlements, NPCs, > critters, environ types, planets, ect.... The idea is to get stuff > included in multiple ways as everyone thinks differently. > For example, I might look for information about jumpcraft > under vehicles. Someone else might look under jumpcraft and > someone else might look up Utilty Jumpcraft. So for a single > Jumpcraft, there are 3 locations that it can be put. There isn't > a size limit in the virutal world, so the index can grow extremely large. So basically you're saying we can put in every last obscure little reference, and presumably the more tenuous ones will be taken out if disputed? And is there going a way to alter our entries? So that if we accidentally enter something with a spelling mistake it can be fixed without pestering you. > << Incidentally, I take it this is only using the v2 books?>> > I am interested in th v2 books, Access Denied GM screen, and Undercurrents. Got it. I actually noticed while looking through that there are a couple of things in Archipelago that aren't in the Moderator's Guide. Using the list of access denied sections I mentioned in my previous email I tried looking up an obscure group (Dark Moon Company for those obsessives out there) and discovered that it had been dropped from the v2 books. Or at least, it didn't seem to be in the same place. Anyway, I'm probably not a good person to be asking these questions. I'll make what contribution I can but in two days I'm going away and leaving my internet access and BP books for about four months. I don't suppose anyone knows of any games going on in Canada around Toronto or Montreal? Jason *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@smtp.earthlink.net Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:55 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: WAY OT: [BLUE PLANET] - Mage Knight (brief) **** > Though I kind of hope it doesn't go the way of Mage Knight - utterly and >totally *cheap*. It's kind of fun, and easy to play, but... so cheap, in so many >aspects.. Only cheap aspect of MK I see is the paint on the minis...which I'm working on fixing. Still have a couple dozen cheap units to finish up. Other than that, it's cheap in a quite good way. ** And the figurines themselves ;) One of mine came without being glued down on one foot. Another one I can't turn the base. Another came with a missing arm and another's sword broke off almost as soon as I got it out of the box ;) It's not a bad concept, really. Have all the stats listed on a rotating base. That's pretty cool. Something feels lacking to me. I haven't played minis games before, though. *shrugs* Even the rules are a downloadable PDF file, though ;) That's pretty cool. Heh. --Charles -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Scott Kullberg [sekullbe@mediaone.net] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:57 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP Ml10@aol.com writes: > Hi Folks, > Given that if every person on the mailing list adds just 1 new entry a day, > the index would grow at an extreme rate, I ask the following question: What > would it take to get you to help out ? For me, a weekend. I've wanted to have a look but during the week I haven't had the time, and since I drive a keyboard for a living I should let my wrists cool down at night :) I'm going to try to enter what I can this weekend if time allows. -- Scott E Kullberg <*> sekullbe@mediaone.net --><-- "Mad science isn't the career for everyone. You really have to love your work or hate the world." - http://www.narbonic.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@smtp.earthlink.net Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:04 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Rising Song and Natural Selection **** Ancient Echoes = Rising Song = Us trying to decide what to call the cetacean sourcebook... Greg ** You guys are just outputting book after book after book here!! Wow; I'm impressed with your endurance! As for the name... I like 'Rising Song' better. 'Ancient Echoes' makes me think of either the Creators or Earth; perhaps even a deeper look into the ecological destruction of Poseidon, mirroring what happened on Earth. 'Rising Song', well, the only 'song' I can think of would be that of the cetaceans, and 'rising' referring to their uplifting. I like that one better ;) --Charles -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Ml10@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:03 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP In a message dated Fri, 4 May 2001 12:50:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Jason Hockley" writes: << So basically you're saying we can put in every last obscure little reference, and presumably the more tenuous ones will be taken out if disputed?>> Yup. << And is there going a way to alter our entries? So that if we accidentally enter something with a spelling mistake it can be fixed without pestering you.>> Just dispute the incorrect entry and then enter the correct data. I'll remove the disputed entry later with my admin tools. (which are still being debugged) Mike Z *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@smtp.earthlink.net Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:06 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP **** Given that if every person on the mailing list adds just 1 new entry a day, the index would grow at an extreme rate, I ask the following question: What would it take to get you to help out ? ** Don't feel too bad Mike; it's an ambitious project, to be sure ;) What would it take? A little more time, for me. I've been dealing with hardware and software failures on my HD the past few days, and it's driving me bonkers. Besides, from last night's game, our GM gave us each a 'homework assignment', so in doing research for it, I'll likely pull up more material to slip into the PIP. I've been meaning to get more reading in anyways ;) --Charles -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:50 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Getting Players Interested (was: World of Hurt) **** Remind players also of just how small an area most people live their lives in. There are people in my neck of the woods who spend their entire lives in our rural county. How often do you leave the city or town where you live? When you do how far do you go? How many different destinations do you visit on a regular basis? ** I went to school with a kid who, by the time he was a senior, the only times he'd ever left the county (granted it's a big one) were for school trips to: A historical site/amusement park about 2hrs from here A historical site in nearby Canada A class trip to Ottawa A class trip to Buffalo, NY (same state) And that's it. And me, I've traveled pretty regularly. From the northern edge of NY state to Long Island when I was but a wee lad, trips to Vermont to visit family, flights and drives to Florida several times to visit family, I spent my first year of college near Boston, several trips around the adjoining section of Canada, a flight to northwest Texas, and a drive to Texas via Missouri and back ;) The west coast is my next destination, hehe. **** The problem with most SF RPGs is an inflation of geograpy, each climate, ecozone, country, ethnic enclave etc becomes it's own planet. Think about the diversity of Earth, from equatorial rainforest to arctic tundra. Look at the many varried forms of government, language, religion, and skin color. ** Look at the US alone. We have territory in each of the major climate zones north of the equator. Look at Hawaii! From desert to snow-capped peak in under 3 hours. Sometimes I think the US can be /too/ diverse ;) --Charles -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Troy Gustavel [troy_nevermore@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:53 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Getting Players Interested (was: World of Hurt) --- thazar@globalnet.co.uk wrote: > >> I have had zero luck in getting anyone...ANYONE... > > >I must say, I just don't understand that all. > I must say, I just don't understand it at all either. But I am unfortunatly faced with it...sigh ===== Troy Gustavel 5825 Bolender Rd. Akron, OH 44319 (330)882 5468 Troy_Nevermore@Yahoo.com "Once upon a midnight dreary..." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:01 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Deep Angel **** At the end of it was the link to www.deepangel.com which neatly combines our supercav, deckplan and future aircraft carrier discussions with some lovely graphics. see http://www.deepangel.com/About_Deep_Angel/Tech%20Specs/techread.html ** Whoah. I hadn't had a chance to read the whole article or check the sites, but hot damn those are some *sweet* graphics! What the hell is this stuff about anyways? This is weird.. Hmm, I hope the people at Fox don't pull a McFarlane and try to sue over the name being close to 'Dark Angel'.. :P -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:10 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP **** critters, environ types, planets, ect.... The idea is to get stuff included in multiple ways as everyone thinks differently. ** You really should check out The Brain, from www.thebrain.com for that kind of organization. Kind of a disorganized organization tool. It's cool. A little tough to get into, but the basic idea is to organize things through 'thoughts' and 'links' rather than a direct structure. If you want to find the specs of VTOLs, you could look under Equipment or Vehicles or Ships or Transportation or Future Tech, and each one would have a link to VTOLs; but it's not a repetition of the VTOL information; it's one instance of the info, but they're all linked to it, and you can go back to any one you want, for cross referencing. If you can view Java, check out their site for an example of how it works ;) ... Not that I have any stake in The Brain. I haven't even used it in a while myself. I just think that it might be the right tool for some people, and it is a good GUI frontend for representing this index. -C -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jason.hockley@skynet.be] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:21 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Getting Players Interested (was: World of Hurt) ----- Original Message ----- > **** > Remind players also of just how small an area most people live their lives > in. There are people in my neck of the woods who spend their entire lives in > our rural county. How often do you leave the city or town where you live? > When you do how far do you go? How many different destinations do you visit > on a regular basis? > ** > I went to school with a kid who, by the time he was a senior, the only times he'd ever left the county (granted it's a big one) were for school trips to: > A historical site/amusement park about 2hrs from here > A historical site in nearby Canada > A class trip to Ottawa > A class trip to Buffalo, NY (same state) > And that's it. And me, I've traveled pretty regularly. From the northern edge of NY state to Long Island when I was but a wee lad, trips to Vermont to visit family, flights and drives to Florida several times to visit family, I spent my first year of college near Boston, several trips around the adjoining section of Canada, a flight to northwest Texas, and a drive to Texas via Missouri and back ;) The west coast is my next destination, hehe. That's nothing. I was at school with a kid who (for those who might understand UK references) lived in Bournemouth, Dorset and had never been further away than where he was born in Blanford (possible misspelling). That's 30 minutes drive away, at most. Jason *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:21 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP **** of any games going on in Canada around Toronto or Montreal? Jason ** *chuckles* Our personal game of 4 players plus GM meets approximately (at best) every other week about 2.5hrs from Ottawa in NY during the week ;) Heh. --Charles -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: David Chart [hist@dchart.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:28 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP --On 4/5/01 2:34 -0400 Stephen Mutka wrote: > Then again, if > it turns out I'm the only one spending any real time at it, I'll lose > interest pretty quickly, even with bribes... Race ya... ;-) I've had other things to do as well, and I'm much more likely to find time for bursts of activity that steadily entering one thing per day. On disputing: I would suggest that disputes only be sustained in case of error. *Everything* is worth indexing if you have a computerised, searchable index with effectively unlimited space (which it does if it has even one megabyte). If there's one reference to, say, Bognor Regis, that's worth indexing, because someone might want to see whether their home town is mentioned. You rarely hear complaints about indexes being over-complete... Besides, I don't want people deleting my nice entries. :-) David Chart *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:40 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Getting Players Interested (was: World of Hurt) **** >> I have had zero luck in getting anyone...ANYONE... >I must say, I just don't understand that all. Likewise:- My local gamestore owner used to witter on about v1 but as he never had it in stock no-one bit. ** I can understand it. In our group right now of 4 players and 1 GM, I ended up basically having to build the characters for two of the other players. One (my girlfriend) had never really RP'd much before, and the other basically said it seemed like too much work. The GM wanted some good background stories, so we could justify our packages and why we're together and whatnot. And not that many people around here from our Palladium Fantasy group bit at it. But they were more interested in wenching and killing mostly anyways, and with BP ... well let's just say that our first combat encounter left me on the ground bleeding before I even had a chance to roll initiative :/ By the time I came out of shock, the battle was over :P Not everyone digs on that. **** Having said that my intial reaction was 'Cyber Punk on a Water World? Hmmm I already have CP2020 and Shadowrun....and CyberPirates for SR covers it all' ** I wana take a look at CP2020, but not Shadowrun. I'm just way too sick of elves and magic and all that bull. One reason I went in for BP. I keep wanting to play some Rifts but in a non-magic, non-psi setting. **** I was after a rules lite game with the Feel of Peter Hamilton's Night's Dawn ** Excuse me while I 'purr' at the mention of the books ;) I didn't really think about PFH until after I started reading about the BP world. Then I was like "Dude, Dave, you've GOT to read these books!" Heheh... I got into PFH just kind of on a whim a few years ago. "'The Reality Dysfunction'? That's an interesting title. What the hey." heh. **** The Other factor was the Hard Science....I am a die hard Traveller fan but dont want to take even the reprints out of my house anymore..... ** I never really heard anyone ever mention 'Traveller' until I got into BP. I may have to take a look at this some time... Course, my current GM's been into RPGs and GMing for.. uhh.. almost 30 years or so? So he's got experience in just about everything.. hehe. --Charles -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:47 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP **** On disputing: I would suggest that disputes only be sustained in case of error. *Everything* is worth indexing if you have a computerised, searchable index with effectively unlimited space (which it does if it has even one megabyte). If there's one reference to, say, Bognor Regis, that's worth indexing, because someone might want to see whether their home town is mentioned. You rarely hear complaints about indexes being over-complete... Besides, I don't want people deleting my nice entries. :-) ** Heh. As I understand it, someone disputes an entry if it's wrong, period. Like if they mention page 34 for Widget Hydrometers, and they aren't mentioned anywhere except page 45. Things that seem trivial won't be disputed and removed. Anyways, that's my understanding of it ;) --Charles -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: chalz@earthlink.net Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:26 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - supercavitation I haven't done too much extra reading on the topic yet, but it strikes me, could maneuverability during supercav be acquired through vectored thrust? Or would this likely destabilize the bubble? --Charles -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: necrobob [necrobob@mail.compfxnet.com] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:24 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: WAY OT: [BLUE PLANET] - Mage Knight (brief) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "chalz@smtp.earthlink.net" Reply-To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:55:11 -0400 > And the figurines themselves ;) One of mine came without being glued down on one foot. Had that happen. Fixed that easily. But for mass-produced rubbery things, the molding is pretty good. >Another one I can't turn the base. Another came with a missing arm and another's sword broke off almost as soon as I got it out of the box ;) They fix that for free, ya know. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Ml10@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:47 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP In a message dated 5/4/01 1:39:59 PM Central Daylight Time, hist@dchart.demon.co.uk writes: << On disputing: I would suggest that disputes only be sustained in case of error. *Everything* is worth indexing if you have a computerised, searchable index with effectively unlimited space (which it does if it has even one megabyte). If there's one reference to, say, Bognor Regis, that's worth indexing, because someone might want to see whether their home town is mentioned. You rarely hear complaints about indexes being over-complete... >> The way that disputing works: 1) A person disputes an item. 2) That item is marked in the database as being disputed. 3) I run an admin tool (which currently currently being debugged) which displays all of the disputed items. 4) I double check the item for spelling, formating, how well it relates to the topic, ect... 5) If I decide that the item needs to go, it is marked in the database as deleted. 6)If I decide that the item stays, it is marked as accepted and nobody can dispute it in the future. Mike Z *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Ml10@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:56 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - supercavitation In a message dated 5/4/01 2:43:54 PM Central Daylight Time, chalz@earthlink.net writes: << I haven't done too much extra reading on the topic yet, but it strikes me, could maneuverability during supercav be acquired through vectored thrust? Or would this likely destabilize the bubble? >> Think of it this way: Take a bedsheet. Hold it over your head by one end. Run real fast in a straight line. The bed sheet will billow out behind you. Now try turning while making sure that the bedsheet does not go slack and lose its billowing shape. It takes a slow and gradual turn. The sheet is much like a supercav bubble. It is formed by the nosecone of the sub moving quickly through the water much like billowing of the sheet is cause by your holding it at one end while running. There are ways of generating an artificial bubble that would aid in turning more quickly, but if that system ever fails, then it would be like hitting a brick wall. Mike Z *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Dom Twist [thazar@globalnet.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:36 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Getting Players Interested (was: World of Hurt) Charles:- > I can understand it.And not that many people around here from our Palladium Fantasy group bit at it. But they were more interested in wenching and killing mostly anyways......... Ah. Munchkinitus. Yes BP is very much the 'Thinking Persons" RPG in the much same way as Call of Cthulhu should be and how the White Wolf games were meant to be but hardly ever are. > **** > Having said that my intial reaction was 'Cyber Punk on a Water World? Hmmm I already have CP2020 and Shadowrun....and CyberPirates for SR covers it all' > ** > I wana take a look at CP2020, but not Shadowrun. I'm just way too sick of elves and magic and all that bull. One reason I went in for BP. I keep wanting to play some Rifts but in a non-magic, non-psi setting. Dont. You have a much better system with BP. Shadowrun is actualy very good in a rules heavy kind of way (except their combat system which hasnt heard of physics...and stay clear of third edition). Like you I was put off by the elves and tech but FASA did a bang up job with the game world (natch) and it does hang together very well. Their Cyber Pirates stuff covers marine matters in much greater detail than BP for instance (LOTS of tech about depth and the zillions of things that can go wrong FREX.........I may have to re-read it actualy...might be worth a recomendation for BP background). It and Battletech will have continued support from Mage Knight and FASA's German re-publishers (who were responcible for the Germany Source book) who look very good actualy....... > **** > I was after a rules lite game with the Feel of Peter Hamilton's Night's Dawn > ** > Excuse me while I 'purr' at the mention of the books ;) I've said it before...but go read them...everyone...please. > **** > The Other factor was the Hard Science....I am a die hard Traveller fan but dont want to take even the reprints out of my house anymore..... > ** > I never really heard anyone ever mention 'Traveller' until I got into BP. I may have to take a look at this some time... Course, my current GM's been into RPGs and GMing for.. uhh.. almost 30 years or so? So he's got experience in just about everything.. hehe. Likewise............Traveller was the first hard science RPG........'Flat Space', Psionics (which is arguable) and 1950's weapons aside..........some of the source material is just fantastic........Scouts FREX is a very good condensed Astrophysics text.....or so my Astrophysics prof said after glancing through it one day and its Alien Modules..........well Traveller Aliens were ALIEN from the only just Vargr (Wolf Hybrids....) to the down right odd K'Kree and Hivers. Every game has its soft spots........Ducks in RuneQuest/Glorantha, 'Flat Space/Weapons' in Traveller.......BP.....well its gotta be Hybrids. OK OK I know they're well argued.......but so are Ducks in Glorantha. I still feel the game might have been better if they didnt have fur/bills (ie if Hybrids had just been genetic super troopers who wouldnt fight/if ducks handt have been in glorantha as a PC race). It FEELS like someone said.........'I know lets have xxxx in the game'.......and then argued it out. DomT *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Andy Wills [andywills@stormsurge.org] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:51 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP Just added 100 entries. That good enough? Looks pretty neat, by the way. I do feel like another layer of indexing is needed, but I'm not sure how that should be added. For example--under Vehicles, Jumpcraft, under Jumpcraft, specific model. I think I will probably print this out when it gets more complete, so really redundant entries should be kept to a minimum. But other than that, looks great. -Andy P.S. Still looking for deckplans for Oil Rigs. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - B-PIP > Hi Folks, > > If it is a time issue, I understand that. I really apperciate people > putting in big spurts. The problem is that big spurts are hard to > maintain over a long period of time. If I could get 100 people to > enter in 1 item per day, I'd be very happy as the growth would > be constant and I don't have to worry about people burning out. > It is like the ad for various charities "For the price of a cup of > coffee a day you can feed an entire village". If 100 spend 5 > minutes per day to enter an item or two in the database, > we would have very rapid growth. > > I am thinking about changing the bribe, I mean, prize structure. > I'll still be awarding 3 BP book for this month's effort as that has > already been promised. But would people be more willing to help > out if I did a monthly raffle instead? For every X points, you would > get an entry in the raffle and then at the end of the month I would > draw one person and they would win the prize. > > Now for some answers to questions: > << > Well I'm looking at it right now and to be honest I'm > having a little trouble thinking of things that don't seem > to be covered already. You've got a lot of the basics on > there and it's presumably going to be details that people > find as their games progress that go up later on. > >> > There is plenty of stuff to cover : Weapons, settlements, NPCs, > critters, environ types, planets, ect.... The idea is to get stuff > included in multiple ways as everyone thinks differently. > For example, I might look for information about jumpcraft > under vehicles. Someone else might look under jumpcraft and > someone else might look up Utilty Jumpcraft. So for a single > Jumpcraft, there are 3 locations that it can be put. There isn't > a size limit in the virutal world, so the index can grow extremely large. > > << Incidentally, I take it this is only using the v2 books?>> > I am interested in th v2 books, Access Denied GM screen, and Undercurrents. > > Mike Z > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Andy Wills [andywills@stormsurge.org] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:00 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - PBeM What's going on with this? Should I send in a character sheet? Would a blues singing native sellout who has a few contacts work? If you want I can supply web space for this on Stormsurge. -Andy *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Andy Wills [andywills@stormsurge.org] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:50 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Indexing Project So I took another look at the indexing project and a) there's a lot of great, raw information coming in and b) it's just that, raw. It needs to be sorted and organized in a way that makes sense. For example, there is Whalesong Theogony and Church of Whalesong Theogony(I just disputed Church of, BTW, 'cause it only had one entry and I know I owuld be more likely to look on W than C). What happens if some people put their work into one entry and others into the other? They're both valid, but you'll only probably get only half the sources when you check. Some of this will be taken care of by disputing stuff, but other stuff just needs to be moved under a larger heading. I don't want to get ahead of the game--after all, what's shown up so far is great--but I think some sorting should take place ASAP (individual characters should be moved to an NPCs section, for example), and then a more thorough scrutiny when the number of entries is tripled, say. After all, one of the reasons indices are more useful than keyword searches is because thought has been put into organizing them. Just my 2 bits. And now, back to adding page numbers! -Andy *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Ml10@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:37 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Indexing Project In a message dated 5/4/01 6:00:48 PM Central Daylight Time, andywills@stormsurge.org writes: << a) there's a lot of great, raw information coming in and b) it's just that, raw. It needs to be sorted and organized in a way that makes sense. >> Noted. I am trying to come up with a method that would allow the work load to be distributed and allows for the maximum flexiblity. I'd go into more detail of what I have in mind, but I have to go run Blue Planet now.... Mike Z *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Megan C. Robertson [mcrobertson@phoenix.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:15 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Indexing Project Greetings dear hearts. Building indices is an art form. One of the key things is to try and think of what someone is liable to be looking for. To takes Andy's example. Someone who is looking for religions on Poseidon, or someone whose character has been told that there is someone at the Church of Whalesong Theogony that has something for him, might well start with "Church of Whalesong Theogony," while someone who is specifically hunting for that faith is likely to start looking for "Whalesong Theogony." The whole point of this exercise is to try and get as comprehensive an index as possible. I hate indices which only work if you happen to know the precise name for something... gets like those ghastly computer manuals and help files which only use the package's name for some process, so if you know what you want to do but don't happen to know what they called it, you are stuck! Hugs and kisses, Mexal. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Machiavelli132@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:02 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - PBeM Indeed, I am also curious as to how I can go about joining the PBEM. I want to play Blue Planet, but there are no roleplayers in my area-don't leave me hanging in the cold.... *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Brian Isikoff [molotov@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:35 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Convention Event - SF Bay Area Howdy All! Just a quick follow-up on an earlier post. My BP v2 game, "Deep Waters", just got confirmed for the upcoming KublaCon convention in Oakland, CA on Memorial Day weekend. The game's Friday night at 8pm. Con and the game details are at www.kublacon.com ...and lucky, got my copy of Natural Selection just in time to unleash havoc...errr...adventure and sightseeing on the lucky players. As a "list only" sneak preview, the premise (not shown on the site) will be a mixed group of newcomers and natives on a National Geographic expedition. And I'm sure it'll be just a simple photo-essay expedition without incident. ;) Pregens will all be of an Exceptional power level. If you attending the Con, stop on by! Thanks! ~ Brian -- House of the Jade Lantern http://www.jadelantern.com -- "The Perfect Man has no self; the Holy Man has no merit; the Sage has no fame." *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.