From: Björn Sandahl [bjorn.sandahl@ihs.se] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 6:25 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question Actually I do not think it is Strenght +1, rather just Strength. If you have Strength equal to 0 or less you have to use the called shots rule. Or am I wrong? Björn Sandahl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Akos M. Szederjei" To: Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question > Thanks Jerome! > > BTW, where is that Strength+1. Just curious to find out more about my > negligence :-) > > Akos > > At 09:06 PM 7/9/01 +0200, you wrote: > >At 19:28 09/07/01 +0200, Akos M. Szederjei wrote: > >>1. How much damage does an unarmed character do? I assume Strength, but > >>could not find any rules for that. > > > >Strength+1 > > > >>2. (If the above is true) It is also stated that armed weapons have a > >>minimum damage rating of 1 point of damage. But what the if unarmed > >>attacker's strength is 0 or -1? And if the damage rating is 0 or negative > >>after modification? > > > >1 minimum, I guess (too lazy to check out the rules :). > > > >>3. Is it correct that Throw does not inflict any damage (no damage rating)? > > > >I'd apply bare hands damage or falling damage (1 meter). > > > >-- Jerome Darmont, mailto:darmont@free.fr > > Webmaster http://fly.to/bleue.planete > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jerome Darmont [jdarmont@dionysos.univ-lyon2.fr] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 2:45 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question At 21:20 09/07/01 +0200, Akos M. Szederjei wrote: >BTW, where is that Strength+1. It's supposed to be in the PG, in the combat section, but I've never found it. :) -- Jérôme Darmont, mailto:darmont@free.fr, http://fly.to/bleue.planete *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jerome Darmont [jdarmont@dionysos.univ-lyon2.fr] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 6:34 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question At 13:24 10/07/01 +0200, Björn Sandahl wrote: >Actually I do not think it is Strenght +1, It is, though. -- Jérôme Darmont, mailto:darmont@free.fr, http://fly.to/bleue.planete *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Björn Sandahl [bjorn.sandahl@ihs.se] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 6:38 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question Reference please, with pagenumber. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome Darmont" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question At 13:24 10/07/01 +0200, Björn Sandahl wrote: >Actually I do not think it is Strenght +1, It is, though. -- Jérôme Darmont, mailto:darmont@free.fr, http://fly.to/bleue.planete *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jerome Darmont [jdarmont@dionysos.univ-lyon2.fr] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 6:48 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question At 13:38 10/07/01 +0200, Björn Sandahl wrote: >Reference please, with pagenumber. It's in the official erratum, if it's available somewhere on the net. And it was in the playtest version I read, IIRC, but I can't find it in the PG. You can find numerous references to this issue and the official answer in the list archives at http://www.biohazardgames.com/board.html . -- Jérôme Darmont, mailto:darmont@free.fr, http://fly.to/bleue.planete *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:00 AM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - [Blue Planet] illegal goods > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Whincup [mailto:shanhat@angelfire.com] > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - [Blue Planet] illegal goods > > When you say military grade weapons, is that laid out > somewhere? Or is it a case of what I think is military grade? > Since I just went through Fluid Mechanics writing up the gear that Andrew Latimer owns, I'm pretty sure the description specifies if the item is "military grade" or not. I'm not *quite* so sure about the gear in the Player's Guide but I suspect so. Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:04 AM To: 'blue_planet@lists.ient.com' Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerome Darmont [mailto:jdarmont@dionysos.univ-lyon2.fr] > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question > > At 13:38 10/07/01 +0200, Björn Sandahl wrote: > >Reference please, with pagenumber. > > It's in the official erratum, if it's available somewhere > on the net. And it was in the playtest version I read, IIRC, > but I can't find it in the PG. > The issue comes up again (generally speaking) whenever we get a threshold number of new list members. It was inadvertently left out of the Player's Guide but Greg has informed us that it is STR+1. I don't remember off hand if I've added it to the errata, since most of that is from 1st edition. > You can find numerous references to this issue and the > official answer in the list archives at > http://www.biohazardgames.com/board.html. > Unfortunately because of the hosting service we're using we don't have access to cgi and thus can't put a search engine up on the archives to help you locate it. IIRC Chris Stilson had volunteered to host some errata but I don't know the status of it. Jim *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Vincent Lefavrais [vincent.lefavrais@freesbee.fr] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:14 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question > It's in the official erratum, if it's available somewhere on the net. So, let me ask the question: Is there any official errata for BP v2 and its progeny? If so, where coud we find it? I guess Biohazard Games or Fantasy Flight Games would be the logical place, but it seems there's nothing looking like an errata at either website... *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Rusty.Neal@Bull.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:13 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Could we get a writeup on the eyes? I loved the Natural Selection book, but the one thing that bothered me was no detailed information on the 'eyespots' common to most Poseidon wildlife. It is the single most obvious difference between Earthlife and Poseidonlife and yet it hardly gets a mention. It tends to be the first thing my players want extra info on. Six legs they just accept without question, the 4 part jaw structure they ask more about, but the eyes get lots of questions. Could we perhaps get a good biological writeup and some diagrams in the next Undercurrents perhaps? And something on the 4-jaw musculature would also be handy. Anyone willing to tackle it? Thanks! Rusty *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Myles Corcoran [myles@irls3101.ck.cit.alcatel.fr] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:27 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Could we get a writeup on the eyes? Rusty.Neal@Bull.com wrote: > Could we perhaps get a good biological writeup and some diagrams in > the next Undercurrents perhaps? And something on the 4-jaw musculature > would also be handy. Anyone willing to tackle it? I'd love to see a quasi-rational explanation for the dominance of eye-spots on Poseidon. I remember from one of the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures broadcast on the BBC that I saw as a child that the evolution of a lensed eye, from a light sensitive spot via a eye cup etc. is (or was; it was a long time ago) believed to be an "easy" evolutionary path. Lenses exist in arthropods, molluscs and invertebrates, for example. N.B. I am not an evolutionary biologist and apologize to any I may have offended with the above summary :) Myles -- Myles Corcoran myles@ck.cit.alcatel.fr Alcatel Ireland Ltd. "It is better, of course, to know | (home) : (+353) 021 4503904 useless things than to know | (work) : (+353) 023 20469 nothing." (Seneca) | (fax) : (+353) 023 20481 *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Christopher Gribbon [c.gribbon@dundee.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:07 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Could we get a writeup on the eyes? > I'd love to see a quasi-rational explanation for the >dominance of eye-spots on Poseidon. I remember from one of the >Royal Institution Christmas Lectures broadcast on the BBC that >I saw as a child that the evolution of a lensed eye, from a >light sensitive spot via a eye cup etc. is (or was; it was a >long time ago) believed to be an "easy" evolutionary path. >Lenses exist in arthropods, molluscs and invertebrates, for >example. > N.B. I am not an evolutionary biologist and apologize >to any I may have offended with the above summary :) Don't worry. I'm not an evolutionary biologist either - I'm a Cell Biologist. I'm not offended at all. (On Earth), the actual 'eyespot' organ itself is believed to have evolved seperately as many as 65 different times at differnt times throughout history. Interestingly, the signalling factors and transcription factors which induce/control eye development and organogenesis are highly conserved between widely varying species (Drosophila fruitflies, mice, humans, etc.) Also, all photsensitive processes known (from photosynthesis to vision) depend on one set of pigments - the carotenoids. However, only plants can produce these substances - which is why we get "night blindness" with vitamin A deficiency (it is the metabolic precursor of retinal - which is what we use to sense incoming light). "Lenses" as such do occur in a wide variety of organisms - but those of compound eyes (in arthropods) are radically different from those in vertebrates and molluscs. Interestingly, the eye of the cephalopod mollusc (squids and octopi) is structurally almost identical to that of vertebrates. PS - if anyone *really* wants to read the rest of the "introduction to the eye" part of my thesis-in-progress, I'll be happy to let them ;-) Christopher Gribbon Vision Research Laboratories Medical Sciences Institute University of Dundee Dundee DD1 5EH UK (01382) 344 229 ____________________________________________________________________ "A scientist is meant to be disinterested, pure; his ambition merely to descry the cement of the universe. He isn't meant to use it to start laying his own patio!" - WILL SELF, The Quantity Theory of Insanity *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: randell.wolff [randell.wolff@murraystate.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 12:26 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Could we get a writeup on the eyes? "Interestingly, the eye of the cephalopod mollusc (squids and octopi) is structurally almost identical to that of vertebrates." You know, someone mentioned this fact recently on a Call of Cthulhu mailing list as support that ol' octopus head himself was responsible for certain evolutionary paths. Which is WAY off path from Blue Planet, so I'll stop now. Randell Wolff *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Megan C. Robertson [mcrobertson@phoenix.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:46 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question Greetings dear hearts. If you're a bit busy, Jim, I'd be prepared to collect the Errata and make a page and send it to you, then all you'd need to do is put it up. Hugs and kisses, Mexal. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Megan C. Robertson [mcrobertson@phoenix.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:47 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Could we get a writeup on the eyes? Greetings dear hearts. It is about 20 years ago since I learned this stuff - I'll see what I can remember :-) Hugs and kisses, Mexal. Former biologist! *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jeremy [ranger@capital.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 7:25 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question Ok Iam new to the list, so Hello. I have the answer to your question. In the BP Players Guide v2 on page 118, the actual second paragraph is what your looking for, it starts with 'Note' . In context here it is... Note that the damage rating of armed close-combat attacks are determined by adding the attacker's Strength to the base damage rating of the weapon. For charcters whose str is below the human norm, this means the base damage rating is decreased. In the case of unarmed attacks, the modified damage rating may therefore be zero or less. However, if the character is wielding a weapon of some kind, such as a nightstick, the minimum damage rating is 1, reguardless of the characters str. Effectively, if the character is strong enough to weild a weapon( moderators discretion), he is strong enough to do damage with it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Björn Sandahl" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question > Actually I do not think it is Strenght +1, rather just Strength. If you have Strength equal to 0 or less you have to use the called shots rule. > > Or am I wrong? > > Björn Sandahl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Akos M. Szederjei" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 9:20 PM > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Some rules question > > > > Thanks Jerome! > > > > BTW, where is that Strength+1. Just curious to find out more about my > > negligence :-) > > > > Akos > > > > At 09:06 PM 7/9/01 +0200, you wrote: > > >At 19:28 09/07/01 +0200, Akos M. Szederjei wrote: > > >>1. How much damage does an unarmed character do? I assume Strength, but > > >>could not find any rules for that. > > > > > >Strength+1 > > > > > >>2. (If the above is true) It is also stated that armed weapons have a > > >>minimum damage rating of 1 point of damage. But what the if unarmed > > >>attacker's strength is 0 or -1? And if the damage rating is 0 or negative > > >>after modification? > > > > > >1 minimum, I guess (too lazy to check out the rules :). > > > > > >>3. Is it correct that Throw does not inflict any damage (no damage rating)? > > > > > >I'd apply bare hands damage or falling damage (1 meter). > > > > > >-- Jerome Darmont, mailto:darmont@free.fr > > > Webmaster http://fly.to/bleue.planete > > > > *************************************************************************** > > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.