From: Poh Tun Kai [tun.kai.poh@hitech.com.my] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 1:16 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebook possibilities... > That said, what is the interest level in an acutal hybrid source/campaign > book? In fact, the deal with FFG is allowing us to consider a number of > supplements we had been unable to before, such as Incorporate, cetacean, > native and GEO titles. What interest would there be in such books? What sorts > of similar titles would you all like to see? Native. Resistance groups, GEO allies, incorp sell-outs, the whole lot. I can think of lots of native content that could be useful in my campaigns. Kai Poh Malaysian Lagomorph *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Atti2dboy@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 12:41 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebook possibilities... In a message dated 9/25/00 6:27:08 PM, BIOHZD@aol.com writes: >What interest would there be in such books? What sorts >of similar titles would you all like to see? In order of preference: Spacers and space-based games. Criminals; Ecoterrorists, Freebooters, Gangsters, Opportunists, and Thugs. Law Enforcers; GEO Marshalls and deputies, GEO Patrols, PIs, and Wardens. Incorporate. Natives; Craftsmen, Fishermen, Healers, Native Patrols, Sell-Outs, and Warriors. GEO. Hybrids. Cetaceans. Rich "Meandering to a different drummer." *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Poh Tun Kai [tun.kai.poh@hitech.com.my] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 1:47 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Space Combat Jim said: > From what I understand the computer game "Independence War" had a realistic > physics model that was accurate for space travel. I've got it but haven't > played it yet. But they do assume some sort of beam weapon there. IndieWar is an AWESOME game. As Dave Klegman and I can attest to. Install it, play it immediately. You won't regret it. Kai Poh Malaysian Lagomorph *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Kevin L. Nault [jskln1@uas.alaska.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 2:37 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Space Combat Chris Stilson wrote: > > Then what you get is an asteroid fitted with a propulsion system and mount > the missiles on that. It would take really big engines, but it could > probably be done. Either that or just put a LOT of missile bases near the > wormhole; by the time that one of them had been successfully destroyed, > enough attention would have been attracted to find whatever's attacking the > base and destroy it. Nah - whatever's flinging things at them can just target them all. You start from a point light minutes away, and launch 'em all in quick succession, and in less than five minutes, you've lost the whole defense. Assuming someone doesn't just work their way in, and then use one installation to destroy the others. I think your best defence would be either planting your own moles in WH-1, for early warning and as a launch point for marine boarding parties against hostile vessels. No ship will carry enough fuel for an Earth-Poseidon run without refuelling on one side of the Wormhole or the other. That's your greatest weapon - if necessary, destroy WH-1 and hide WH-2. Plus, It is the full might of the GEO defending Poseidon; they could also sound Luna out for support, since they're not THAT Earth-friendly. Loonies are even less Incorporate friendly, and they'd be the real driving force. Still, it's unlikely to come to armed combat. If the UN could muster the strenth (military, public opinion, whatever) to boot the GEO, they could just take ALL the troops keeping things peaceful on Earth, and ALL their advanced military and equipment, stop enforcing economic and food policies, and pack 'em all off to Poseidon, which has no other legitimate government. I think that'd cause enough upheaval on Earth to prevent anything more than loud bitching. I mean, it'd be nationalist sentiment that would be behind the UN, really. Exempli gratia: Poland and Hungary have recovered better than the countries around them - they weren't as reliant on technology before the Blight, didn't have some of the problems that countries around them did, and have since secretly formed an alliance and stockpiled weapons. Now, they're both gonna regain the former glory of empire! Of course, all of Europe and Southeast Asia could just get along nicely with each other once the Peacekeepers aren't there to enforce playing nice. He he. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Kevin L. Nault [jskln1@uas.alaska.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 2:56 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - {ACCESS DENIED} Sourcebook possibilities... BIOHZD@aol.com wrote: > > You ask about interbreeding hybrids. We will certainly be addressing that in > issue #7, but I can assure you that there will be no Catrillas or Gorrilines > in upcoming supplements. We hope to touch on as much hybrid biology and > culture as space will allow but the UC format is limited. > > That said, what is the interest level in an acutal hybrid source/campaign > book? In fact, the deal with FFG is allowing us to consider a number of > supplements we had been unable to before, such as Incorporate, cetacean, > native and GEO titles. What interest would there be in such books? What sorts > of similar titles would you all like to see? Keeping in mind that I don't yet have my 2nd ed. books, what I'd like to see (and why): Cetaceans - they're almost as alien as life native to Poseidon, and we know less about what motivates them. More detail on the Whalesong Theogeny, or at least on what it appears to be to humans. Spacers and space adventures - I'm a sci-fi nut, what can I say? I want to be a smuggler in the asteroid belts, a gypsy freighter captain on whatever run someone'll pay for, or the Marshall in assigned to the Serpentis asteroid belt, investigating private mining concerns destroyed (it seems) by pirates. Mars might go in this book, too. World of Hurt - My desire for this is powered by the same sick urge that makes people watch America's Funniest Home Videos: I want to see what happens when someone's made to bleed. In this case a whole planet. Luna would go well here, since it's fate is so tied to Earth's, and yet so bravely separate. GEO/Hybrids - It sounds like the Hybrids are tied closely to the GEO, so they can go together. Information about how the GEO functions, from top to bottom, what it still does on Earth, what (if anything) it does elsewhere in Sol System, what (if anything) it does elsewhere in Lambda Serpentis System, etc. GEO and Hybrid culture too. Natives - I guess I need more detail on these guys. They don't often come up much in my campaigns (I tend to do more city/newcomer based stuff), maybe I would if I knew more about them. Incorporates - Who hates who, who's up to what and why, that kind of thing. Aborigine - If it hasn't all been covered here Wormhole - 'Cause you keep hinting, and promising, and I'M DYIN' HERE!!! *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Thomas Jeenicke [Thomas_Jeenicke@public.uni-hamburg.de] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 7:43 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebook possibilities... Among the next sourcebooks, following themes should be covered IMHO: Cetaceans: The chance to play dolphin and orca characters is a unique feature of BP. But that is not an easy task. (At least I find to easier to play, say, an elf or a dwarf than a dolphin.) More info about cetacean culture and interaction with humans would certainly be helpful. GEO: The most powerful and influential human organization. Its internal and external development will decide both Earth's and Poseidon's future (I guess). Therefore a GEO sourcebook should have a high priority. Another thing I'd liked to see: uplifted chimps and orang-utans! When will they come? Thomas *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Brian Betty [bbetty@glad.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 7:57 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebooks Jeff Barber wrote, "In fact, the deal with FFG is allowing us to consider a number of supplements we had been unable to before, such as Incorporate, cetacean, native and GEO titles. What interest would there be in such books? What sorts of similar titles would you all like to see?" I'd like to see a comprehensive work on cetaceans and any other 'uplifted' sea mammals ... that would rock my world. A native title would also attract my attention, but I can play a human in half a dozen other games ... give me sea mammals, man! (Are there uplifted walruses? heh heh.) Monkeygod ****** 'Zombies are the liberal nightmare. Here you have the masses, whom you would love to love, appearing at your front door and their faces falling off; and you're trying to be as humane as you possibly can, but they are, after all, eating the cat. And the fear of mass activity, of mindlessness on a national scale, underlies my fear of zombies.' -- Clive Barker *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Christopher Gribbon [c.gribbon@dundee.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 10:12 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebooks >Jeff Barber wrote, "In fact, the deal with FFG is allowing us to consider a >number of supplements we had been unable to before, such as Incorporate, >cetacean, native and GEO titles. What interest would there be in such >books? What sorts of similar titles would you all like to see?" I think I'll go with what most other people have said - and request: - Cetaceans: Biology and Culture Definately a must-do! - "World of Hurt" earth sourcebook Enquiring minds want to know. - the other island groups on Poseidon - what (if anything) is happening there This would more likely be a UC or two, I know... - Space and other plents in the Sol and Serpentis systems - and the Wormhole in-between. - Hybrids - GEO structure and stuff. - Incorporates An analysis of a couple of Incorps' structure, ethos and activities. - And, believe it or not, I'd also find a fully-written scenario or two (maybe even a small campaign) really interesting. I know that you've been extremely generous with a whole load of story seeeds, but I do still like to see fully-done scenarios for systems. A coup,e of reasons: if you're a beginner at the whole BP setting, and aren't sure what to run, having one pre-done by the professionals helps a lot. you can usually steal NPCs, plot ideas, setting info, and everything else from published scenarios - even if you don't run the whole thing yourself The BP setting is *so rich* that the major problem I have when trying to come up with scenarios is choosing where to set it, and what it should be about from all of the many options. Published scenarios might not be popular with a lot of people - especially on this list - but I have a lingering fondness for them. Christopher Gribbon Vision Research Laboratories Medical Sciences Institute University of Dundee Dundee DD1 5EH UK (01382) 344 229 ____________________________________________________________________ "A scientist is meant to be disinterested, pure; his ambition merely to descry the cement of the universe. He isn't meant to use it to start laying his own patio!" - WILL SELF, The Quantity Theory of Insanity *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Gareth Hanrahan [hanrahag@iol.ie] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:53 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebooks > >Jeff Barber wrote, "In fact, the deal with FFG is allowing us to consider a > >number of supplements we had been unable to before, such as Incorporate, > >cetacean, native and GEO titles. What interest would there be in such > >books? What sorts of similar titles would you all like to see?" > > I think I'll go with what most other people have said - and request: > > - Cetaceans: Biology and Culture > Definately a must-do! Seconded. > - "World of Hurt" earth sourcebook > Enquiring minds want to know. Doubly seconded - although I'd love to see Mars and Luna covered as well. To be honest, I think running a BP game on Earth would be just as interesting as a game set of Poseidon. > - Hybrids Ugh. No. Hybrids don't deserve their own book, or anything more than the occasional sidebar. > - GEO structure and stuff. > > - Incorporates > An analysis of a couple of Incorps' structure, ethos and activities. A big Incorporate sourcebook would be nice, too. > - And, believe it or not, I'd also find a fully-written scenario or two (maybe even a small > campaign) really interesting. I know that you've been extremely generous with a whole load > of story seeeds, but I do still like to see fully-done scenarios for systems. A coup,e of > reasons: > if you're a beginner at the whole BP setting, and aren't sure what to run, having one > pre-done by the professionals helps a lot. > you can usually steal NPCs, plot ideas, setting info, and everything else from published > scenarios - even if you don't run the whole thing yourself > The BP setting is *so rich* that the major problem I have when trying to come up with > scenarios is choosing where to set it, and what it should be about from all of the many > options. > Published scenarios might not be popular with a lot of people - especially on this list - but I > have a lingering fondness for them. If anyone cares, I've a pair of BP scenarios I wrote for conventions up at www.irishgaming.com, in the downloads section.... > Christopher Gribbon Gar *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Ankfix@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:15 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebook possibilities... In a message dated 9/25/00 10:27:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BIOHZD@aol.com writes: > That said, what is the interest level in an actual hybrid source/campaign > book? In fact, the deal with FFG is allowing us to consider a number of > supplements we had been unable to before, such as Incorporate, cetacean, > native and GEO titles. What interest would there be in such books? What > sorts > of similar titles would you all like to see? Well, my vote would be for the cetacean book first. Fins and Orcas are two of the most fascinating character types. They are familiar enough to just about everyone, yet their personalities and motivations are completely alien. This combination makes for a very attractive package. As for other books, I've actually never been real big on the hybrids, but I would certainly buy a hybrid book. Incorp, GEO, and native books would all be interesting, as well. I'd really like to see some tech books, too, especially some space stuff. - Fixer *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: jh39 [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:25 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebooks On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:53:25 +0100 Gareth Hanrahan wrote: > > >Jeff Barber wrote, "In fact, the deal with FFG is allowing us to consider > a > > >number of supplements we had been unable to before, such as Incorporate, > > >cetacean, native and GEO titles. What interest would there be in such > > >books? What sorts of similar titles would you all like to see?" > > > > I think I'll go with what most other people have said - and request: > > > > - Cetaceans: Biology and Culture > > Definately a must-do! > > Seconded. Yep. Add another vote to that. I think it's going to be one of the most requested sourcebooks by a long way. A Cetacean handbook will likely be one of those that people will automatically buy as a supplement to the game. > > - "World of Hurt" earth sourcebook > > Enquiring minds want to know. > > Doubly seconded - although I'd love to see Mars and Luna covered as well. To > be honest, I think running a BP game on Earth would be just as interesting > as a game set of Poseidon. Personally, I think there's easily enough possible material available to have a sourcebook for Earth and another for the rest of the Sol system. The Earth book should probably have priority though. It may be the planet we all live on but in the BP world it's changed a lot. > > - Hybrids > > Ugh. No. Hybrids don't deserve their own book, or anything more than the > occasional sidebar. Well, while I'm not quite this fervent I don't think they need their own sourcebook. Historical, political etc. information could easily be integrated into other sourcebooks (e.g. the Earth sourcebook) and the biological details and so on could go either to Undercurrents or into a biotech sourcebook (if one is planned, seperate from Fluid Mechanics). I do like the Hybrids, but they do sometimes seem to come across as a sort of weak link in the whole "hard science" aspect. > > - GEO structure and stuff. The GEO could definitely be detailed further. It might be an idea to include other organisations though. For example, the role and rivalry of the UN would be important. A lot of people don't really know that much about the UN *now*. > > - Incorporates > > An analysis of a couple of Incorps' structure, ethos and activities. > > A big Incorporate sourcebook would be nice, too. Yeah, this one seems like a decent idea too, but I would have thought it would fall further down the list of priorities. There's already a lot to work with on the Incorporates, and they're one of those aspects that is currently easily fiddled with to get the sort of game you want. Jason *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Michael Czaplinski [MCzaplinski@npr.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:38 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebook possibilities... I would also agree that a SB dedicated to cetacians would be a biggie for me, followed closely by an expanded 'Poseidon Bestiary'-type book (along the lines of a National Geographic guidebook, perhaps) that could include more info on the Aboriginies (in lieu of a full blown Abo/Creator SB), and possibly a GEO SB. I'm really not all that interested in non-Poseidon SB's (such as the proposed 'World of Hurt' book), though I would actually like to see a Belter book focussed on the Serpentis Belter culture. MikeC *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Christopher Gribbon [c.gribbon@dundee.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 12:48 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebooks >> Published scenarios > >If anyone cares, I've a pair of BP scenarios I wrote for conventions up at >www.irishgaming.com, in the downloads section.... Well - I'm aware that there are a couple of short-ish one-offs available; I've run a couple myself (grafting them into my existing campaign wasn't *too* difficult), and greatly enjoyed doing so. What I was really after was a more extended affair, with multiple settings and a variety of sub-sections. What? Me? Too demanding? Surely not! ;-) Christopher Gribbon Vision Research Laboratories Medical Sciences Institute University of Dundee Dundee DD1 5EH UK (01382) 344 229 ____________________________________________________________________ "A scientist is meant to be disinterested, pure; his ambition merely to descry the cement of the universe. He isn't meant to use it to start laying his own patio!" - WILL SELF, The Quantity Theory of Insanity *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Kevin L. Nault [jskln1@uas.alaska.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 12:04 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebooks Brian Betty wrote: > > I'd like to see a comprehensive work on cetaceans and any other 'uplifted' > sea mammals ... that would rock my world. A native title would also attract > my attention, but I can play a human in half a dozen other games ... give > me sea mammals, man! (Are there uplifted walruses? heh heh.) Screw them; two of the most intelligent critters on the planet (right up there with chimps, actually) are Ravens and African Grey Parrots - I wanna be a birdie! > Monkeygod [snip] > 'Zombies are the liberal nightmare. Here you have the masses, whom you [snip] > -- Clive Barker GREAT .signiture *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: brian_ferrenz@americanchemistry.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:58 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Scenarios Chris, You are looking for more of a James-Bond-movie-length scenario than a 1-hour-action-show-length? Lots of different "scenes" and locations, more of a mini-campaign than a one-nighter? Brian p.s. Sorry about the copious use of "-". It just seemed appropriate! :-) Well - I'm aware that there are a couple of short-ish one-offs available; I've run a couple myself (grafting them into my existing campaign wasn't *too* difficult), and greatly enjoyed doing so. What I was really after was a more extended affair, with multiple settings and a variety of sub-sections. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Gareth Hanrahan [hanrahag@iol.ie] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 12:23 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebooks > > > >Jeff Barber wrote, "In fact, the deal with FFG is allowing us to consider > > a > > > >number of supplements we had been unable to before, such as Incorporate, > > > >cetacean, native and GEO titles. What interest would there be in such > > > >books? What sorts of similar titles would you all like to see?" > > > > > > I think I'll go with what most other people have said - and request: > > > > > > - Cetaceans: Biology and Culture > > > Definately a must-do! > > > > Seconded. > > Yep. Add another vote to that. I think it's going > to be one of the most requested sourcebooks by a long way. > A Cetacean handbook will likely be one of those that people > will automatically buy as a supplement to the game. Thinking about it, you could do an "underwater" supplement, incorporating stuff on the Undersea Habitats, stuff on mining, information on Poseidon animals, more details on oceanography - and a trio of chapters on cetacean characters, cetacean culture, and gming... > Jason Gar *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Mantisking@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 5:16 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebook possibilities... Hello; With Xenosilicate ore being the main driving plot point of the game, I'd like to see a sourcebook resembling GURPS: Biotech. There's just so much that can be accomplished using Long John. Ray *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Poh Tun Kai [tun.kai.poh@hitech.com.my] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:14 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebook possibilities... MikeC wrote: > I would also agree that a SB dedicated to cetacians > would be a biggie for me, followed closely by an > expanded 'Poseidon Bestiary'-type book (along the lines > of a National Geographic guidebook, perhaps) that > could include more info on the Aboriginies (in > lieu of a full blown Abo/Creator SB), and possibly > a GEO SB. Yes, yes, my vote for a bestiary book too...except that there is already one in the works, "Survey." Kai Poh Malaysian Lagomorph and Blimp Enthusiast *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Kevin L. Nault [jskln1@uas.alaska.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:03 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sourcebooks Gareth Hanrahan wrote: > > Thinking about it, you could do an "underwater" supplement, incorporating > stuff on the Undersea Habitats, stuff on mining, information on Poseidon > animals, more details on oceanography - and a trio of chapters on cetacean > characters, cetacean culture, and gming... ...maybe. There's a lot to 'fins, and the other would provide a pretty meaty sourcebook on its own. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.