From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 7:00 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Long John and 'Psi' powers.... ----- Original Message ----- > As I've been noodling on things to throw into my long-incubating > BP campaign (set in an aquacultural cooperative way down among > the Skyscraper Reefs), I've been thinking about the ESP biomod. Actually one reference I like for the BP ESP biomod is the main character in the Mindstar series of novels by Peter F. Hamilton. I'm not sure if they work quite in the same way but the feel of things seems about right to me. The character is also constantly having to explain to people that; no, he can't just reach in and drag out their thoughts and memories. It's just an enhanced empathy and intuition thing. Anyway, the books are well worth reading for their own sakes as well as a plethora of Blue Planet ideas. Jason *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: icathar@club-internet.fr Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 3:21 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - night vision >Although not 'night vision' per se, I find that when standing post at night >both hearing and in particular scent comes in useful. as a sidenote, all RPG I have seen misjudge the use of hearing. All the hearing, perception, etc. skills ask you a roll to determine whether or not you actually heard 'the thing'. The real problem in fact is more to discriminate everything you are hearing (especially during night watch), to forget the constant natural noises and determine 'irregularities'. hummm, hope my english is conveying my purpose :) JeFF, somewhere in paris, france *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: thazar@globalnet.co.uk Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 8:13 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Long John and 'Psi' powers.... I really like Peter F H's work........but this mindstar esp sounds EXACTLY like Flinx ADF's novels......which have been around fer ages. In reply-to blue_planet@lists.ient.com on Thu Oct 11 14:05:15 2001 >----- Original Message ----- > > > >> As I've been noodling on things to throw into my long-incubating >> BP campaign (set in an aquacultural cooperative way down among >> the Skyscraper Reefs), I've been thinking about the ESP biomod. > > Actually one reference I like for the BP ESP biomod is the main >character in the Mindstar series of novels by Peter F. Hamilton. I'm not >sure if they work quite in the same way but the feel of things seems about >right to me. The character is also constantly having to explain to people >that; no, he can't just reach in and drag out their thoughts and memories. >It's just an enhanced empathy and intuition thing. Anyway, the books are >well worth reading for their own sakes as well as a plethora of Blue Planet >ideas. > > >Jason > >*************************************************************************** >To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com >with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > > ------------------------------------------------ Global WebMail - Delivered by Global Internet www.global.net.uk ------------------------------------------------ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Charles [chalz@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 8:21 AM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Long John and 'Psi' powers.... Yet again, Peter F. Hamilton comes to the forefront on the BP list. For those who haven't read any yet: It's good stuff. His Night's Dawn tril has already been mentioned more than once (starting with The Reality Dysfunction) with relevance to BP (particularly the worlds of Lalonde and .. was it Atlantis?). I didn't really think about the Mindstar stuff, because it's not exactly the same style of material. But hey, it's still good anyways. So, again, also for the newer folks on the list: Peter F. Hamilton, "The Reality Dysfunction".. The total trilogy is about 6 normal sized paper backs, or 3 larger hard covers. Good stuff. > Actually one reference I like for the BP ESP biomod is the main > character in the Mindstar series of novels by Peter F. Hamilton. I'm not > sure if they work quite in the same way but the feel of things seems about > right to me. The character is also constantly having to explain to people > that; no, he can't just reach in and drag out their thoughts and memories. > It's just an enhanced empathy and intuition thing. Anyway, the books are > well worth reading for their own sakes as well as a plethora of Blue Planet > ideas. > > > Jason > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: David R. Crowell [gpfarm-dave@northnet.org] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 3:14 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Long John and 'Psi' powers.... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 9:12 AM Subject: RE: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Long John and 'Psi' powers.... > I really like Peter F H's work........but this mindstar esp sounds EXACTLY like Flinx ADF's novels......which have been around fer ages. > > Pip and Flinx! I love them. Good read. If Anyone is looking for a varient single ecotype world check out ADF's "Midworld" a jungle/rainforest planet with some verry interesting symbiotic relationships between humans and their environment. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: DarrenKng@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 6:30 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Long John and 'Psi' powers.... > I really like Peter F H's work........but this mindstar esp sounds EXACTLY like Flinx ADF's novels......which have been around fer ages. Alan Dean Foster writes OK space opera. Peter F. Hamilton write truly brilliant hard SF. the distinction will seem pretty irrelevent to anyone who hasn't read both author's work, but anyone who has will probably agree. Would you compare the Choronicles of Thomas Covenant to the formula fantasy trilogies produced by TSR? Sorry if any ADF fans get up in arms over this, but I challenge them to read Hamilton and THEN argue with me. And yes, the Mindstar books are a must for inspiration if you want to combine hard SF and psi-powers. Also, the night's dawn trilogy has some good material of the subject, although they don't get centre stage like in the Mindstar books. Primarily, the Edenist "Affinity" technology (pseudo-telepathy) and Josua Calvert's ability. He has no cinematic mutant powers, his psi just makes him incredibly lucky and intuitive... Hamilton's work should also be read simply because there is so little hard-SF stuff out there, mostly space opera. And as usual, the original topic gets more and more distant... Maybe any replies to this should be posted under a different topic so this can get back to the subject of psi-powers, instead of becoming a forum for arguments over favourite authors. DarrenK *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Lise et Marco [cantin.gendreau@sympatico.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 6:45 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Long John and 'Psi' powers.... I prefer to let ESP out of the game, the reason is that from point of view in all the other games I have played the mystical source of ESP was sounding more logic than a scientific source. And there is already so many other mysteries and possibilities in BP that I think the players have enough to deal with. Marco DarrenKng@aol.com a écrit : > > I really like Peter F H's work........but this mindstar esp sounds EXACTLY > like Flinx ADF's novels......which have been around fer ages. > > Alan Dean Foster writes OK space opera. Peter F. Hamilton write truly > brilliant hard SF. the distinction will seem pretty irrelevent to anyone who > hasn't read both author's work, but anyone who has will probably agree. Would > you compare the Choronicles of Thomas Covenant to the formula fantasy > trilogies produced by TSR? Sorry if any ADF fans get up in arms over this, > but I challenge them to read Hamilton and THEN argue with me. > > And yes, the Mindstar books are a must for inspiration if you want to combine > hard SF and psi-powers. Also, the night's dawn trilogy has some good material > of the subject, although they don't get centre stage like in the Mindstar > books. Primarily, the Edenist "Affinity" technology (pseudo-telepathy) and > Josua Calvert's ability. > He has no cinematic mutant powers, his psi just makes him incredibly lucky > and intuitive... > > Hamilton's work should also be read simply because there is so little hard-SF > stuff out there, mostly space opera. > > And as usual, the original topic gets more and more distant... Maybe any > replies to this should be posted under a different topic so this can get back > to the subject of psi-powers, instead of becoming a forum for arguments over > favourite authors. > > DarrenK > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: DarrenKng@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 7:18 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Long John and 'Psi' powers.... I'd prefer to leave ESP out of the game as well, but since the topic has been raised, it's obvious that not everyone shares this feeling. Also, note that there IS a form of psi-power around already (are we supposed to keep quiet about these things, or can we assume that it won't matter if players read these?). This is not true psi-power, but a means of imitating it, which is what the original post seemed to be talking about. And the long john is the probable medium for it's use, so it would fit the topic. If somebody wants to create pseudo-psionic powers like this, then Cybergeneration by R. Talsorian is a good place to look. DarrenK *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.