From: Dominic Mooney [dom@cybergoths.u-net.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 2:00 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Review and others. Paul Lesack wrote: >There's one important difference. Blue Planet is vibrant and exciting, >and Blueheart is less interesting than a cricket match. I tried to read >it 3 times, and it put me to sleep. I really wanted to like it. It >didn't help. >Read Starfish by Peter Watts. It's far superior to Blueheart. In my >opinion, of course. I'll check it out. However, IMO Blueheart was a pretty good book - I admit that it wasn't exactly the fastest moving novel though. >There was a discussion of these books a while back. Check the Biohazard >games archive for details. The archive of this list or are you talking about something else? Dom *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Paul Lesack [lesack@interchange.ubc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 12:48 PM To: Blue Planet List Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Aquarius underwater lab This may be of interest. It's only 50m down, and Long John is usually 100+m, but it's still underwater. http://www.uncwil.edu/nurc/aquarius/index2.htm The live webcams are entertaining. Nice fish, too. Paul *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Paul Lesack [lesack@interchange.ubc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 2:26 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Review and others. Dominic Mooney wrote: > >There was a discussion of these books a while back. Check the Biohazard > >games archive for details. > > The archive of this list or are you talking about something else? > > Dom The archive from this list. It lives at http://www.biohazardgames.com/board.html Paul *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Troy Gustavel [troy_nevermore@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:29 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Review and others. This link appears to be broken Jim --- "Heivilin, Jim" wrote: > There have been, at various times, a suggested reading list. I > forget when but it should still be in the archives at http://wwwbiohazardgames.com/board.html. ===== Troy Gustavel 5825 Bolender Rd. Akron, OH 44319 (330)882 5468 Troy_Nevermore@Yahoo.com "Once upon a midnight dreary..." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Paul Lesack [lesack@interchange.ubc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:36 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Review and others. Troy Gustavel wrote: > > This link appears to be broken Jim > > --- "Heivilin, Jim" wrote: > > There have been, at various times, a suggested reading list. I > > forget when but it should still be in the archives at > > http://wwwbiohazardgames.com/board.html. There's a period missing after www, and there's no period after html.\ http://www.biohazardgames.com/board.html It works -- I just tried it. Paul *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Dominic Mooney [dom@cybergoths.u-net.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 6:37 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Oxygen levels and impact This was just posted on the Traveller Mailing List (also at IENT but a place of sound and fury quite unlike the placid waters here). It deals with oxygen levels and impact and was posted by one of the medics on the list. I thought it may be of interest here too, if only for the basic information. (If you aren't familiar with Traveller, statistics are rolled on 2D6, and thus average 7 (can be slightly modified in character generation from training and penalised for age). Normally, damage is applied to the three physical statistics directly (STR, DEX and END) reducing the chance of success at tasks. Light pistols typically do 2D6 damage, 9mm auto pistol would do 3D6, and an assault rifle between 4 and 6 D6 damage dependent on design. When one characteristic reaches zero unconsiousness results, two is a serious wound, and three at zero is death unless you can get the character to a freezer really fast.) Dom ------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 21:22:31 +1100 From: "Robert O'Connor" Subject: Gas Mixtures for Travellers (long) The following are draft notes dealing with the effects of atmospheres on personnel. General Considerations - - Atmospheres rated trace or less require a pressure suit. - - Atmospheres rated very thin or less require a compressor. - - Pressures are expressed in atmospheres absolute (ATA), 1 ATA = 101.3kPa, 760mmHg or 14.5 psi. 1. Oxygen The partial pressure of oxygen at sea level is approximately 0.21 ATA. For every 5500m altitude, pressure falls by 50%. Commercial airliners are pressurised to 75-80% of sea level pressure. a. Hypoxia i. Acute exposures (initially breathing at sea level pressure) Effect Oxygen Pressure Altitude equivalent (m) Lose consciousness in:- (ATA) 5 minutes (air) 0.09 6100 2 minutes 0.08 7500 = 'very thin'* 1 minute 0.07 8000 20 seconds 0.03 13700 5 minutes (100% oxygen) 0.1 ~14000 = 'trace'** * assumes oxygen 21% of total atmospheric composition ** atmospheric pressure is ~=0.1 ATA ii. Long-term exposures These time intervals include periods of gradual 'decompression' and acclimation. Oxygen pressure Altitude equivalent Tolerable for years 0.11 5500 Tolerable for days 0.07 8000 [-2 to all tasks] * Rule suggestions - - Acute hypoxia Suffocation damage is applied to Intelligence (all points) as well as the physical characteristics (as usual). Once Int goes to zero, the victim falls unconscious. Once total damage is equal to INT X 2, the victim is comatose and requires urgent medical attention. Once total damage is equal to INT X 3, cardiac arrest occurs. For each of the time increments listed above, 2D damage is sustained. So if a luckless pilot loses cabin pressure while flying at 13000 metres, s/he sustains 2D damage every 20 seconds until pressure is restored. - - Altitude sickness If a roll of 2D exceeds the character's Endurance, they will fall ill. 2D damage is sustained every 12 hours after an 'incubation period' of (2 X End) hours. Nausea, vomitting and headache are the initial symptoms. When damage exceeds Intelligence, delirium or coma ensue. When two characteristics are zero, either pulmonary or cerebral oedema are present. Medical attention is required. - - Chronic adaptation Life at the equivalent of 5500m altitude carries a -3 to ageing rolls, and is equivalent to an ambient 2.0G field i.e. -1 Dex and End in first week, -3 End, +1 Str and Dex over the next three weeks, with recovery of End over the next three months. b. Hyperoxia This is an unusual situation. No world atmosphere will have an oxygen content in excess of 0.3 ATA. At typical Traveller TLs, hyperbaric environments are rare. Partial pressure O2(ATA) Effect/Notes 1 Chest pain, decreased lung capacity after (Endurance) hours 3 Usual oxygen pressure for hyperbaric chamber ; <5% of subjects will fit after 5 hours (less with air breaks) 4 50% of subjects will fit after 30 minutes 5 90% of subjects will fit after 30 minutes Warning symptoms include nausea, vomitting, anxiety, vertigo, and sensory changes (altered sight/hearing/touch). 2. Other substances Are divided into the following categories :- i. Inert :- do not support respiration ii. Irritant :- cause non-specific damage to the respiratory system iii. Toxic :- cause specific damage to the respiratory system Suggested format :- Name, type Concentration - effect odour thresholds, if relevant Increasing general damage rates for irritant or toxic gases, suffocation damage for inert ones Miscellaneous comments Example 1 : Ozone Irritant Partial Pressure Effect 3.1e(-5) = 'good air quality' 6.2e(-5) = 'average air quality' 9.3e(-5) -2 End following 1 hour exposure* 1.6e(-4) 1 point damage, any exposure (per minute, say) 3.2e(-4) 1D damage, any exposure 4.1e(-4) 2D damage, any exposure 4.8e(-4) 3D damage, any exposure * This will persist for (15 - original Endurance) days. Example 2 : Carbon dioxide Inert Partial pressure Effect 3.45e(-4) average in today's atmosphere 0.06 Lose consciousness in fifteen minutes (suffocation damage) 0.15 General anaesthesia in one minute (2 X Int suffocation damage) I apologise for an error made in this post :- > > Tschai's atmosphere is thick, with a surface pressure of about 150% that > > of Earth's at sea level. The air contains 74% nitrogen, 17% oxygen, 4% > > water vapor, 2% carbon dioxide, 2% sulfur compounds and 1% neon. > > There is also a good deal of airborne dust. > Acutely, the problem is due to the toxicity of > the carbon dioxide, sulphur compounds and particulates - an unprotected > human might survive for a few hours, at best. 0.03 ATA CO2 is tolerable for quite a while. The sulphur compounds are problematic ; SO2 is quite dangerous in concentrations of 2-3 parts per million (by weight). Robert O'Connor Medico, Gamer *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Nelson Lamoureux [haver@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 9:04 PM To: blue_planet@lists.ient.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Review and others. > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Andy Wills [mailto:andywills@stormsurge.org] >> Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Review and others. >> > >> This brings up a question--I'm planning on writing up a >> bibliography for Stormsurge. Any suggestions of links >> especially, but also books and such that could work for >> Blue Planet? >> >There have been, at various times, a suggested reading list. I forget when >but it should still be in the archives at >http://wwwbiohazardgames.com/board.html. That's a very interesting question because I happened to ask it some times ago. You can try to find the subject line containing «Reading suggestion». Hope it help. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Nelson Lamoureux haver@sympatico.ca le_barbare_erudit@yahoo.ca ArM Code 1.2 4+ R+ H+ L T- SG++ G++ Y10 C-- FZ-- P+ HoH(B F+ Q) CD ------------------ «Boire sans soif et faire l'amour en tout temps, Madame, il n'y a que ça qui nous distingue des autres bêtes.» Beaumarchais *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.