From: EndersWAR1@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 11:40 PM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency In a message dated 11/11/99 12:53:46 PM Central Standard Time, c_sakal@yahoo.com writes: << I'm a bit of a Monty Python fanatic, and that quote is, "I'm French! Why do you think I have this outrageous accent - you silly English king" >> I stand corrected by the silly english Ka-nihg-ets.... "Come on, Ceasar, if your going to be stupid, don't be half-assed stupid...Be stupid all the way!"-187 x) <---Dead Cyclops Enterprises "In the land of the two-eyed blind, the Dead Cyclops is king." EndersWAR1@aol.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Tun Kai Poh [t_poh@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 7:44 PM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - More spam from the newbie Derek wrote: >Ok, my group's first BP game (using Shadowrun engine) will be starting >tonight. Some odds and ends: Good luck in general on that... (snip) I have used the "Last Chance" as a generic hydrofoil deck layout in the past...see Dave Klegman's website for the writeup on my Malaysian scenario "Con Ayer". >Perhaps more undersea habitations in the future? One of the first BP props I ever saw was the map for a generic undersea habitat, in Jeff's Origins '97 BP premiere con game, "Deep Sh*t". Later, reading the write-up for Undersea Habitat 2 in the main rulebook, it occured to me that UH2 followed the exact same deck layout as that GEO installation. I believe that the map will eventually be published, probably in "Airlock" or some other scenario. Another useful map: Back a long while ago, Dark Horse comics did a 2-issue comic book adaptation of "The Abyss" with art by Mike Kaluta. The really bad coloring job totally ruined the art, and the story is a condensed version of Special Edition, but one of the most interesting bits was a bonus map of the Deepcore installation, apparently straight from the movie folks. You'll have to dig deep into your local comic store's back issue bins to find it, though... (snip some items that I can't comment on) >* Have any GMs had difficulty incorporating dolphins/orca into thier games? >I'm banning them for the short term. But I'd like to keep future options >open. My first Malaysian campaign died because of bad integration of an Orca patrolman into a GEO team. Orcas are hard to work with because they're really good at fighting and underwater stuff, but can't do much when the party is dealing with lots of human interactions above the surface. And some roleplayers don't like to play an "alien" species for fear of not being able to do it justice, preferring to stick to the complexities of humans. So, right now only I use cetaceans as NPCs. >* Once again, thanks to all and thanks to Biohazard for such a cool >setting. >My only suggestion would be to remember that some of us may have rowed or >sailed, but have no practical experience with the deep ocean. Yep, it's not easy thinking of relatively original and interesting deep ocean scenarios... Kai Poh Malaysian Lagomorph ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: gareth hanrahan [hanrahag@iol.ie] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:20 PM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - More spam from the newbie >Ok, my group's first BP game (using Shadowrun engine) will be starting >tonight. Some odds and ends: > >* I'm going with a Red Sky style campiagn. I like it. I also *really* like >"The Last Chance". While I'm giving out props, thanks to all who answered >my earlier questions. A final thanks for the latest "Undercurrents" and the >layout of a Long John refinery. I personally have no idea what aquatic >insustrial strucures look like, and anything along these lines is a plus. >Perhaps more undersea habitations in the future? I'll be posting my wonderfully implausible Anemone-class station with my con scenario... >* Exactly how prevalent is AI? I'm going under the assumption that >Turing-level AI is common and that expert systems are unremarkable. WARNING A C C E S S D E N I E D S P O I L E R W A R N I N G Not quite...the only real AI mentioned so far is Hugo, the AI which runs the floating city of Dyfedd, and he only just woke up. If he can, I'd assume bigger and more powerful networks back on Earth can do so to (or have already done so...). The computers of BP are probably advanced enough to approximate intelligence without being true sci-fi AIs though. >* Hypothetical situation: I'm human (so far, no big stretch). What do I >need to scrape together diving apparatus beyond a diving bell? On Poseidon? Not much...a few thousand scrip for a beat-up old sub. >Becker >beckent@erols.com Gar "You thought that you were the bomb Yes well so did I" - Tori Amos, Spark *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:14 PM To: blue planet list (E-mail) Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - More spam from the newbie -----Original Message----- From: "Derek Becker" To: "Blue_Planet@Lists. Imagiconline. Com" Subject: More spam from the newbie Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:42:07 -0500 Ok, my group's first BP game (using Shadowrun engine) will be starting tonight. Some odds and ends: * I'm going with a Red Sky style campiagn. I like it. I also *really* like "The Last Chance". While I'm giving out props, thanks to all who answered my earlier questions. A final thanks for the latest "Undercurrents" and the layout of a Long John refinery. I personally have no idea what aquatic insustrial strucures look like, and anything along these lines is a plus. Perhaps more undersea habitations in the future? * A Squid PC wants to hide a few supply boxes underwater. Knowing nothing about echolcation and being unable to find a doctor who can give me the appropriate surgical modifications to experiment on my own, how hard would these be to find? * Have any GMs had difficulty incorporating dolphins/orca into thier games? I'm banning them for the short term. But I'd like to keep future options open. * Exactly how prevalent is AI? I'm going under the assumption that Turing-level AI is common and that expert systems are unremarkable. * Hypothetical situation: I'm human (so far, no big stretch). What do I need to scrape together diving apparatus beyond a diving bell? * Once again, thanks to all and thanks to Biohazard for such a cool setting. My only suggestion would be to remember that some of us may have rowed or sailed, but have no practical experience with the deep ocean. Becker beckent@erols.com http://www.erols.com/beckent/bp/srbp.html *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:14 PM To: blue planet list (E-mail) Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency -----Original Message----- Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:52:52 +0100 To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com From: Jerome Darmont Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency At 03:28 10/11/99 +0800, Rachel Kronick wrote: > >background. The on-line part of it is at >. Good site. And thx for the nice reference! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerome DARMONT | mailto:darmont@altern.org | http://altern.org/darmont/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 2:28 PM To: 'blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com' Subject: RE: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Landsrechts (was "Flame the newbie!") > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Hockley [mailto:jh39@ukc.ac.uk] > Subject: Re: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Landsrechts (was "Flame the newbie!") > > On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 03:31:57 -0500 Michael Czaplinski > wrote: > > You know, it's odd but I'm on several mailing lists > that seem to contain many members of various military > organisations and they all seem to say a lot about the > British military producing some of the best Special Forces > in the world. I've no particular experience in this, but At least half (guesstimate on my part) of the techniques and organization of Delta Force (unofficial name, can't remember the real designation right now) come from observations of 22 SAS on the part of several Special Forces Officers in the mid to late 80s. > sentence "If you train really hard, and are exceptionally > talented and gain years of experience you might one day > begin to think of yourself as approaching the level of a > Royal British Marine" in his introductory speech. > When I was at the Engineer School for my Engineer Officer Basic Course, our demolitions training was conducted by an Australian Warrant Officer. Enormously talented man who would broke no nonsense. Most of my classmates didn't like him. But I discovered if you closely listened to what he had to say and then used it and your brain to avoid blowing yourself up, he was a nice guy. So I got along with him no problem. Don't know much of his background (and can't even remember his name any more) but he instilled in me a respect for his forces and other units which have sprouted from the Royal Army. > Again though, I'd like to say that pretty much all > this information is second hand. The only real link I have > is that my grandfather was a member of the 9th Paras during > WW2, the group that later went on to form the core of the > SAS apparently. To me he seems a mild mannered gardening > fanatic, but when my father was little he used to tell him > some of the tricks they were taught for combat behind enemy > lines. Let's just say these guys don't follow the Marquis > de Queensbury's rules. > The few men I've met and what I've read lead me to believe that most special operations types are generally viewed as mild mannered by most of us. I actually met a man who had been in 23 SAS at a friends wedding years ago. Now he had some interesting stories. Ask Jeff about the English teacher at the school where he teaches. Another interesting man, though I suspect his most interesting stories are still classified. > years with appropriate rationing. Still, by the time the > whole thing is over they're going to be in an especially > bad state I think. Of course, this is all my opinion so you > can take it however you wish. > This gives me a few idea. *another evil grin* Jim (no sig just to confuse things!) *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Heivilin, Jim [banzai@missouri.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 2:14 PM To: 'blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com' Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - RGR > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Czaplinski [mailto:MCzaplinski@NPR.ORG] > Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Landsrechts (was "Flame the newbie!") > > The Gurkha Regiment (alternate spelling: Ghurka) is > perhaps the most elite regular army regiment in service > today. > I had thought that it wasn't spelled the way I used it. Thanks. > is a story I heard from the Falklands war that a well > defended Argentine garrison (manned with perhaps a company or > two) surrendered to the Brits on the strength of the mere > rumor that a squad of Ghurkas was joining the siege on their > position, but who knows if that's really true. What is > There were several interesting stories about the SAS, the Ghurkas, the RMBS and the Brigade of Guards to come out of the Falklands conflict. Anyone have any books they recommend? > have served GEO well during the brushfire wars of the Blight, > and I can easily imagine them present on Poseidon, kukris on > their hips, in GEO service, at least a company or two of them > anyway). > I have been doing a little work on the Heavy Cavalry Unit Histories lately and I have some interesting things in mind. *evil grin* > For the official Royal Army history of the Royal Gurkha > Rifles (the current incarnation of this storied unit), see: > > http://www.army.mod.uk/army/organise/infan/gurkha/index.htm > Many thanks. This looks to be an excellent site (though their tendency to underline everything makes finding the links a little difficult). Jim Jim Heivilin, Project Manager Systems & Applications Group, IAT Services University of Missouri at Columbia mailto:banzai@missouri.edu, 884-3898 *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:01 PM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) Christopher Sakal wrote: > > Nor am I...."I'm French! Can't you tell by my > > mustache and my outrageous > > accent?"-Monty Python and the Holy Grail > I'm a bit of a Monty Python fanatic, and that quote > is, "I'm French! Why do you think I have this > outrageous accent - you silly English king" Isn't that last bit "you silly English knight.", with "knight" pronounced phonetically? Er... Ka-nigget I think. Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 12:58 PM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:48:05 -0800 (PST) Christopher Sakal wrote: > > > French as a whole seem to think of you guys! > Considering the Frewnch national reputation, I'm not > real worried abnout them having a dim opinion of us ^_^. As a serious note, this is not unique to the French. The USA is far from popular and the resentment is growing quite steadily. Now the French and the English have been traditional enemies for over a millennium so when they start getting together to criticize another country you know there is something going on. I'd like to add though, that many of my messages today may sound like they have racist undertones. I'd like to think that I'm not one. It's more that my background has enabled to me to see a wide variety of this coming from and aimed at all sorts of people. Basically it makes me sick prompting me to react more than I probably should, and I have an unfortunate predilection for playing Devil's Advocate that sometimes gets misconstrued. Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Christopher Sakal [c_sakal@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 12:50 PM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency > Nor am I...."I'm French! Can't you tell by my > mustache and my outrageous > accent?"-Monty Python and the Holy Grail I'm a bit of a Monty Python fanatic, and that quote is, "I'm French! Why do you think I have this outrageous accent - you silly English king" ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 12:53 PM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:24:32 EST EndersWAR1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/11/99 5:24:04 AM Central Standard Time, jh39@ukc.ac.uk > writes: > > << And you wouldn't believe the resentment some of > them have for your intervention in WW2! >> > > Like I just said....they'd all still be speaking German.... Actually I have to admit that this gets on my nerves a little too. I don't mean to offend anyone here but at times some people make it sound like the USA won the whole war on its own. I know that without them we could very well have lost and even at its best the war would have carried on for a lot longer. Even so, some of the people I know in Belgium get a little annoyed when the local Yanks start trying to parade around making grandiose proclamations about the thousands of Americans who died while the Europeans claim that their losses were miniscule compared to the suffering on this continent. Why the hell can't we just be sorry for all the people who died regardless of nationality? Frankly I'd like to be upset about all the people on the Axis side of things who died as well without various people accusing me of being a Nazi sympathiser. Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Robert P. Stefko [rpsst16+@pitt.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 11:59 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - A World of Hurt >Well, in the 'To Each Their Own' department, I must say that WOH was the *least* anticipated of the BP upcomings, on the basis that there are TONS of other 'dark future'/neo-cyberpunk RPG's on the market that deal with a destroyed or mangled Earth, whereas there is only one POSEIDON.< Well, I look forward to seeing how Biohazard handles a balkanized, xenophobic Earth with early nanotech and a developing schism between rival world governments (UN and GEO). *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Brian McNeilly [brian.mcneilly@altus-solutions.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 11:28 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Rookie Question Hi there, Having just purchased Blue Planet a week ago, I am getting through my first read of the book, and I must say I am quite impressed. Congratulations to the Biohazard Games staff! What a wonderful setting you have created and the game mechanics are ideally suited for my curent gaming group. I do have one initial observation. I was looking at the section on wounds, and was reading the example (sorry I haven't got a page reference) where the poor soldier takes the terrible wound to the chest. It seems to me that all of the die rolls in the example which indicate that a wound effect applies are above the percentage given on the table, whereas the rules state that the die roll should be below the listed percentage for the effect to occur. I believe that the example is incorrect, but perhaps I'm just confused - there is no mention of this page in the errata on the web site. Anyone have a comment? Thanks, Brian Brian McNeilly, Software Designer Altus Solutions Incorporated Suite 250, 4190 Still Creek Drive Burnaby, BC, Canada, V5C 6C6 mailto:brian.mcneilly@altus-solutions.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Michael Czaplinski [MCzaplinski@NPR.ORG] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 11:17 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - A World of Hurt > From: Sean Michael Whipkey [mailto:highway@cstone.net] [snip capsule of WORLD OF HURT from BP web site] > To be honest, this is my most hoped-for release for BP...:) Even just > as background material for Poseidon... Well, in the 'To Each Their Own' department, I must say that WOH was the *least* anticipated of the BP upcomings, on the basis that there are TONS of other 'dark future'/neo-cyberpunk RPG's on the market that deal with a destroyed or mangled Earth, whereas there is only one POSEIDON. FWIW: my most 'ideal' release ord for the next few supps would be: FLUID MECHANICS (Thankfully, this is already scheduled next) SURVEY (especially if it has rules/guidelines to make creatures) STORM SURGE/POSSE (tie) ABORIGINE / WORMHOLE (1) COLONY / AIRLOCK (tie)(2) WORLD OF HURT (2) (1) Why not combine ABORIGINE and WORMHOLE into one supplement thicker than ARCHIPELIGO but slimmer than the basic rulesbook? Unless there's FAR more going on with the Creators than even you have let on...... (2) I would release these supp's last because it seems to me that they will flesh out secondary characteristics of the setting that has already been dealt with in ARCHIPELIGO, and as such Biohazard can put them off until later in their (admittedly limited) production schedule. Again, FWIW. MikeC *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: EndersWAR1@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:25 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency In a message dated 11/11/99 5:24:04 AM Central Standard Time, jh39@ukc.ac.uk writes: << And you wouldn't believe the resentment some of them have for your intervention in WW2! >> Like I just said....they'd all still be speaking German.... "Come on, Ceasar, if your going to be stupid, don't be half-assed stupid...Be stupid all the way!"-187 x) <---Dead Cyclops Enterprises "In the land of the two-eyed blind, the Dead Cyclops is king." EndersWAR1@aol.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: EndersWAR1@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:26 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency In a message dated 11/11/99 9:51:23 AM Central Standard Time, c_sakal@yahoo.com writes: << Considering the Frewnch national reputation, I'm not real worried abnout them having a dim opinion of us ^_^. >> Nor am I...."I'm French! Can't you tell by my mustache and my outrageous accent?"-Monty Python and the Holy Grail "Come on, Ceasar, if your going to be stupid, don't be half-assed stupid...Be stupid all the way!"-187 x) <---Dead Cyclops Enterprises "In the land of the two-eyed blind, the Dead Cyclops is king." EndersWAR1@aol.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: EndersWAR1@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:28 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - CWTh & stuffed orca references In a message dated 11/11/99 5:07:13 AM Central Standard Time, jh39@ukc.ac.uk writes: << Or do they all have little cameras inside relaying images back to Bataku? >> Come now...this may be a dark game, but it isn't Dark Conspiracy (Where the average character has a shelf life of one game day.... "Come on, Ceasar, if your going to be stupid, don't be half-assed stupid...Be stupid all the way!"-187 x) <---Dead Cyclops Enterprises "In the land of the two-eyed blind, the Dead Cyclops is king." EndersWAR1@aol.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: EndersWAR1@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:23 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency In a message dated 11/11/99 4:48:39 AM Central Standard Time, jh39@ukc.ac.uk writes: << You mean you *aren't* ?!? Seriously though, if you're worried about Asian opinion you should see what the French as a whole seem to think of you guys! >> We are aware...I think they are just pissed off because if it wasn't for us, they would all still be speaking German.... "Come on, Ceasar, if your going to be stupid, don't be half-assed stupid...Be stupid all the way!"-187 x) <---Dead Cyclops Enterprises "In the land of the two-eyed blind, the Dead Cyclops is king." EndersWAR1@aol.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: EndersWAR1@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:17 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Art in UC #5/6 In a message dated 11/11/99 1:58:06 AM Central Standard Time, BIOHZD@aol.com writes: << I am not even going to ask if this was had anything to do with the dolphin prostitute bit... ; ) >> And I am still waiting for the dolphin Crack whore story..... "Come on, Ceasar, if your going to be stupid, don't be half-assed stupid...Be stupid all the way!"-187 x) <---Dead Cyclops Enterprises "In the land of the two-eyed blind, the Dead Cyclops is king." EndersWAR1@aol.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: EndersWAR1@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:13 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - A World of Hurt In a message dated 11/11/99 9:44:21 AM Central Standard Time, highway@cstone.net writes: << bringing them into bright > focus and offering endless adventure opportunities that, though a bit dryer, > are no less dangerous. >> When can We expect a new release of some kind for BP...I have much expendable income with Biohazard's name on it.... "Come on, Ceasar, if your going to be stupid, don't be half-assed stupid...Be stupid all the way!"-187 x) <---Dead Cyclops Enterprises "In the land of the two-eyed blind, the Dead Cyclops is king." EndersWAR1@aol.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Christopher Sakal [c_sakal@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 9:48 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency > > French as a whole seem to think of you guys! Considering the Frewnch national reputation, I'm not real worried abnout them having a dim opinion of us ^_^. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Christopher Sakal [c_sakal@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 9:45 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sound Underwater > Though sound direction and distance are difficult > for a human to guage, (see > Jason W's bit above or BP 151) the sound itself is > easy to perceive. Is this difficulty because we don't have the aural equipment to make the judgement, or merely because we're used to doing those things in air and the accoustics are different in the water? Can a human be trained to have the ability to determine distance and direction fo sound underwater - if so, then our equipment is probably fine, it just getting used to using it under water. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Sean Michael Whipkey [highway@cstone.net] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 9:36 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - A World of Hurt BIOHZD@aol.com wrote: > World of Hurt > World of Hurt offers Blue Planet players everything they need to take their > BP adventures home - to Earth. This sourcebook describes the dark Earth of > 2199, detailing her twisted sociopolitical landscape, her shattered ecology, > her bleak past and her uncertain future. The book also describes the Solar > System - Earth orbit, Luna, Mars and the Belt - bringing them into bright > focus and offering endless adventure opportunities that, though a bit dryer, > are no less dangerous. To be honest, this is my most hoped-for release for BP...:) Even just as background material for Poseidon... SeanMike -- Sean Michael Whipkey - highway@cstone.net - www.cstone.net Engineering Department, Cornerstone Networks, Inc. - 804.817.7000 Report spam with full headers to: spam-report@cstone.net - TINLC Happiness is mandatory. Are you happy, citizen? - _Paranoia_ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 5:35 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Re: RE: [BLUE PLANET] British Military On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:20:36 -0900 Auberon wrote: > Jason Hockley wrote: > > > > It's sort of scary really. It was only when I heard > > about this that I realised that I have contact with an > > awful lot of people this could include. As I said in > > another message my grandfather was part of the group that > > later became the SAS, and a great many of my neighbours are > > military personel assigned to NATO. > > And Americans are supposed to be violent psychos? I know exactly 4 > people with military experience. Actually, many of these *are* Americans. I live just a short (for Europeans, that is) drive from NATO Headquarters. For some reason the sleepy little flemish farming village I'm in seems to be a popular area for stationing their people. Every 3 years or so we get a new family moving in. Admittedly most of these people are in administrative positions and the like, but almost all of them have had the usual training and possibly a little more. > > > I remember hearing a paraphrased quote from a Naval Methodology-type book on > > > submarines, where it was said > > > "The navies of the world respect the American submarine forces as being some of the best. > > > They fear the British..." > > > > Somehow I think the opinion is changing though. We > > may have controlled the largest Empire the world has ever > > seen at one point but now we have quite definitely being > > overtaken. > > No one tops the Americans in modern imperialism. The EU can start to > represent a challenge. Oh I know the EU from the inside. Trust me, they aren't much of a threat to you yet. Mind you, if the French and English put aside their differences and started working with the rest of the organisation for once then they might start improving rapidly. Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 5:28 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Ghurkas and BP On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:20:44 -0000 Paul Williams wrote: > > In that case you may be looking more to the SBS, or > > Special Boat Services (Squad?). They get a bit annoyed at > > the way the SAS gets all the fame but to paraphrase one > > expert: > > SBS = Special Boat Squadron. They've all but been merged with the Marines > now though. > > Going back to your earlier comment about how we once held 1/4 of this > planet, although we have been overtaken our troops are still some of the > best trained on the planet. Most European armies are small and well > trained, as are the Israelis of course. Did you hear yesterday that two of > the 10 US Army Divisions have been rated "C-4", which is apparently along > the lines of "bloody useless when it comes to combat efficiency"? Squadron! That's the word I was trying to remember. Thanks. I suppose it's only natural that smaller countries are going to have to train well. After all, if you don't have the numbers then you've got to make up for it somehow. It's a matter of adapting to what is necessary. The reason the British Navy was so good all those years ago was because we are based on an island. The reason the Israeli air force beats the crap of most others is becuase they are surrounded by enemies and basically have to go into enemy territory during training. > Wiggy > > P.S. Don't forget that today is Armistice Day, time to remember those who > died defending our freedom. I hadn't forgotten, although it means a little less to me probably. My mother works for the EU and I went to a special school mixing all the different nationalities. Neither of us is supposed to celebrate Armistice Day becuase it might offend the Germans. Somebody seems to overlooked the fact that they also celebrate it quite often when they can. Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Auberon [jskln1@uas.alaska.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 5:21 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Re: RE: [BLUE PLANET] British Military Jason Hockley wrote: > > It's sort of scary really. It was only when I heard > about this that I realised that I have contact with an > awful lot of people this could include. As I said in > another message my grandfather was part of the group that > later became the SAS, and a great many of my neighbours are > military personel assigned to NATO. And Americans are supposed to be violent psychos? I know exactly 4 people with military experience. > > I remember hearing a paraphrased quote from a Naval Methodology-type book on > > submarines, where it was said > > "The navies of the world respect the American submarine forces as being some of the best. > > They fear the British..." > > Somehow I think the opinion is changing though. We > may have controlled the largest Empire the world has ever > seen at one point but now we have quite definitely being > overtaken. No one tops the Americans in modern imperialism. The EU can start to represent a challenge. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 5:22 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:15:32 -0900 Auberon wrote: > Jason Hockley wrote: > > > > You mean you *aren't* ?!? Seriously though, if > > Only on holidays. There's a special calendar for the Post Office tho - > you gotta watch them. Thanks for the warning. Do they issue this calendar to anyone who asks or is requesting one likely to provoke a psychotic rage? > > you're worried about Asian opinion you should see what the > > French as a whole seem to think of you guys! > > Last time I checked, the Normans liked us... Right? Are you serious? You know there are places in France where a bottle of Coke will cost you 50 dollars just because it's from the USA and they don't really want people to buy it. And you wouldn't believe the resentment some of them have for your intervention in WW2! Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: paulw@betanet.co.uk Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 5:21 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Ghurkas and BP > In that case you may be looking more to the SBS, or > Special Boat Services (Squad?). They get a bit annoyed at > the way the SAS gets all the fame but to paraphrase one > expert: SBS = Special Boat Squadron. They've all but been merged with the Marines now though. Going back to your earlier comment about how we once held 1/4 of this planet, although we have been overtaken our troops are still some of the best trained on the planet. Most European armies are small and well trained, as are the Israelis of course. Did you hear yesterday that two of the 10 US Army Divisions have been rated "C-4", which is apparently along the lines of "bloody useless when it comes to combat efficiency"? Cheers! Wiggy P.S. Don't forget that today is Armistice Day, time to remember those who died defending our freedom. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Auberon [jskln1@uas.alaska.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 5:16 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency Jason Hockley wrote: > > You mean you *aren't* ?!? Seriously though, if Only on holidays. There's a special calendar for the Post Office tho - you gotta watch them. > you're worried about Asian opinion you should see what the > French as a whole seem to think of you guys! Last time I checked, the Normans liked us... Right? *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 5:07 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Ghurkas and BP On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:48:17 -0500 Michael Czaplinski wrote: > > From: BIOHZD@aol.com [mailto:BIOHZD@aol.com] > > > > > > >>>> I have one thing to say... Ghurka Supertroopers! Your > > suggestion is > > excellent. One of my favorite sci-fi novel series (loosely > > called "The Sten > > Series") features Ghurka in service to a far-future galactic > > government. > > Isn't Ghurka Supertrooper a redundant term, kinda like > 'Brutal Dictator' or 'Bad Pauly Shore movie'? > > After all, *SOMEONE* had to train the first batch of Supertroopers, > and as patriotic an American as I am, I just have to think that > the natural choice would be guys that SEALs live in fear of. In that case you may be looking more to the SBS, or Special Boat Services (Squad?). They get a bit annoyed at the way the SAS gets all the fame but to paraphrase one expert: "The SBS can do everything the SAS can do. Plus, they walk on water." Now if only I could remember where that came from. Jason *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 5:04 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - CWTh & stuffed orca references On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:02:30 GMT Tun Kai Poh wrote: > >"Actually the one I was thinking of was in Natural Law, but I probably > >shouldn't elaborate any further without spoiler warnings. Still, I'm sure a > >few dolphin and orca dolls could help as props for a game." > > BTW, the orca doll mention was not in the UC article about Bataku (the one > with the infamous picture), it was in the Greg Benage short story in the > Cetaceans section of the main rulebook. One of Bataku's victims was holding > one when he torpedoed the undersea base... I sense a recurring theme here. Just *how* many orca dolls are referred to? And who is making them anyway? Is this the real secret of Hydrospan's success? Or do they all have little cameras inside relaying images back to Bataku? Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 5:01 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Re: RE: [BLUE PLANET] British Military On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:44:38 +0000 Christopher Gribbon wrote: > > You know, it's odd but I'm on several mailing lists > >that seem to contain many members of various military > >organisations and they all seem to say a lot about the > >British military producing some of the best Special Forces > >in the world. > > Although I have little or no army experience, I have to say that I've heard the same. It's sort of scary really. It was only when I heard about this that I realised that I have contact with an awful lot of people this could include. As I said in another message my grandfather was part of the group that later became the SAS, and a great many of my neighbours are military personel assigned to NATO. > >I've no particular experience in this, but > >from what I heard from a former US Marine it's usually the > >British that are asked to send out their guys to train half > >the rest of the world. According to one person, there is at > >least one US Marine instructor who sometimes uses the > >sentence "If you train really hard, and are exceptionally > >talented and gain years of experience you might one day > >begin to think of yourself as approaching the level of a > >Royal British Marine" in his introductory speech. > > I remember hearing a paraphrased quote from a Naval Methodology-type book on > submarines, where it was said > "The navies of the world respect the American submarine forces as being some of the best. > They fear the British..." Somehow I think the opinion is changing though. We may have controlled the largest Empire the world has ever seen at one point but now we have quite definitely being overtaken. Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:56 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Re: Diver/Squid ear structures On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:54:37 EST BIOHZD@aol.com wrote: > Hello Brain, > > You write: > > diving can cause ear drum problems > > >>>>If a person equalizes, healthy, normal eardrums are uneffected by diving. > Equalizing is matching the pressure in one's eustatian tubes to the water > pressure outside the eardrums by pinching your nose shut and *gently* trying > to blow out through it. The soft popping sound is the pressure being > released. It is a simple but learned skill that any skin or scuba diver > *must* learn. Aquaform bio-mods make equalizing reflexive. This is true, but there are also those of us that suffer from it no matter how much we go through. My father spent a lot of time training for this and talking to experts. He *really* wanted to be a diver. Unfortunately it seems to be a problem inherent with his eardrums. It seems to be hereditary too unfortunately. Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:53 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Re: Frozen Dolphins? On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:54:11 EST BIOHZD@aol.com wrote: > Hey Jason, > > There were about 500 cetaceans in the Athena Project, but many more have come > to Poseidon since recontact, and many are native born. As described in the > cetacean section of BP, this has created a social division of sorts in fin > culture. The Athena decendants have a shared history of unified struggle, > hand in fin, with humans and are pro monkey as a result. OTOH, many of the > Recontact immigrants are bitter about what humans did to the Earth, and do > not want the same to happen on Poesidon. It's when I get replise like this that I start wishing I didn't have to walk 15 minutes from my books to get to a computer. I must have asked countless questions over the last year or so that could have been easily answered if I could just pick up the main rulebook. > Cetaceans travel in IHMS in larger water filled canisters as their > unsupported bodies can not long withstand even the gravity-like forces of > accelleration/decelleration. So presumably this also means it would cost more to ship the cetaceans out there? Considering the state of the Earth at the moment I suppose this could lead to a lot of resentment amongst some of less open minded would-be colonists. I can just imagine some of them protesting that one 'fin gets a place where 2 humans could go. Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:48 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Frozen Dolphins? On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:18:30 EST EndersWAR1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/10/99 8:00:40 PM Central Standard Time, > t_poh@hotmail.com writes: > > << >"Look! Up in the sky! Is it a bird? Is it a Plane? Hang > >on... a fish?!?" >> > of course...neither dolphins nor Orcas are really fish...both are mammals Yes, and this was actually what I said in the next line of the message. I hardly think anyone who has even glanced through the BP book is not going to know this. Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:43 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:56:34 -0500 Brian Betty wrote: > Yeah, I'm just remembering "Heiren" toothpaste here ... Incidentally, I've > been all over Asia and consistent opinions on Americans are scary ... they > think we are heavily armed, violent, rude, criminal people on one side and > rich, kind, etc. on the other. Dontcha just love stereotypes? But there's a > hint of truth in all that, I think ... You mean you *aren't* ?!? Seriously though, if you're worried about Asian opinion you should see what the French as a whole seem to think of you guys! Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Auberon [jskln1@uas.alaska.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 3:09 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Art in UC #5/6 BIOHZD@aol.com wrote: > > Hey Jeff, who did the Hanging Joe art for the new UC? I noticed that none of > the usual artist suspects were in the credits for UC 5/6... > > >>>>Er...I am responsible for that. Actually, because we put it out for free, > I do almost all the art in Undercurrents myself ; P. Sorry... No need to apologize, actually. I hadn't noticed that the art was substantially different from that in BP. Picasso? No. Good? Sure! *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Michael Czaplinski [MCzaplinski@NPR.ORG] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 2:48 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Ghurkas and BP > From: BIOHZD@aol.com [mailto:BIOHZD@aol.com] > > > >>>> I have one thing to say... Ghurka Supertroopers! Your > suggestion is > excellent. One of my favorite sci-fi novel series (loosely > called "The Sten > Series") features Ghurka in service to a far-future galactic > government. Isn't Ghurka Supertrooper a redundant term, kinda like 'Brutal Dictator' or 'Bad Pauly Shore movie'? After all, *SOMEONE* had to train the first batch of Supertroopers, and as patriotic an American as I am, I just have to think that the natural choice would be guys that SEALs live in fear of. MikeC *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:55 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - General Foods Commandos Hey David, You write: Say, one that specialised in food production, and is still called something like General Foods (but not that exactly), but which now makes most of its money hiring out 'security specialists'. >>>>This is a *way* cool idea. We may need to steal it. Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:55 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Art in UC #5/6 Hey Kai, You write: Hey Jeff, who did the Hanging Joe art for the new UC? I noticed that none of the usual artist suspects were in the credits for UC 5/6... >>>>Er...I am responsible for that. Actually, because we put it out for free, I do almost all the art in Undercurrents myself ; P. Sorry... You also write: As a kid, slept with a 4 foot dolphin doll from Taiwan >>>>I am not even going to ask if this was had anything to do with the dolphin prostitute bit... ; ) Later, Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:55 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Sound Underwater Hey Chris, Though sound direction and distance are difficult for a human to guage, (see Jason W's bit above or BP 151) the sound itself is easy to perceive. Hydrophones work well, whalesongs serenade you as you swim under summer waters in Hawaii, and I have even dove (dived?) where a resort had an underwater stereo that played the local radio station. It was a bit tacky, and the sound lacked any base response but it was perfectly audible. Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:54 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Ghurkas and BP Hello Mike, You write: I can imagine that the loyal Ghurkas would have easily made the transition to GEO service, [snip] >>>> I have one thing to say... Ghurka Supertroopers! Your suggestion is excellent. One of my favorite sci-fi novel series (loosely called "The Sten Series") features Ghurka in service to a far-future galactic government. Jeff "I have a Kukri on display in my living room" Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:55 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Re: Diver/Squid ear structures Hello Brain, You write: diving can cause ear drum problems >>>>If a person equalizes, healthy, normal eardrums are uneffected by diving. Equalizing is matching the pressure in one's eustatian tubes to the water pressure outside the eardrums by pinching your nose shut and *gently* trying to blow out through it. The soft popping sound is the pressure being released. It is a simple but learned skill that any skin or scuba diver *must* learn. Aquaform bio-mods make equalizing reflexive. Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:54 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Blubber and Nostrils... Hey Brian, You ask about aquaform blubber and sealing nostrils: Page 288, first column, second paragraph from the bottom mentions both the extra body fat and the sealing nostrils. My take is that the Poseidon typical native is built much like the typical Samoan native. There happen to be many Samoan natives attending the school where I teach (yea, I know, it's Missouri - go figure) and they tend to a stout-but-sleek body form that seems a good approximation of aquaform..er..form. The sealing nostrils are not physically obvious, and are operated by reflex. Additional muscle tissue, laying inside the nostril openings just so, allows an aquaform to readily pinch his nose shut. With us monkeys, at shallow depths, inverted nostrils will be flushed by gravity. At greater depths they will be flushed by increasing water pressure. Cetaceans and pinnipeds all have self-sealing blowholes/nostrils. Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:54 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Re: Frozen Dolphins? Hey Jason, There were about 500 cetaceans in the Athena Project, but many more have come to Poseidon since recontact, and many are native born. As described in the cetacean section of BP, this has created a social division of sorts in fin culture. The Athena descendants have a shared history of unified struggle, hand in fin, with humans and are pro monkey as a result. OTOH, many of the Recontact immigrants are bitter about what humans did to the Earth, and do not want the same to happen on Poseidon. Cetaceans travel in IHMS in larger water filled canisters as their unsupported bodies can not long withstand even the gravity-like forces of acceleration/deceleration. Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:54 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Stuffed Orca Doll Hey All, [tiny spoiler] For what it's worth, in last season's convention demo, Where the Wild Things Are, we used a soggy, stuffed Orca doll as one of the prop/clues the players find. It was cool to see a player taste the puddle water the thing ends up sitting in and do a double take when he realizes it is actually saltwater ; ). Later, Jeff Barber Stuffed Orca Wrangler *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:54 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Re: Frozen Dolphins? Hey All, IMO it is unclear whether dolphins would have a superior sense of 3D, and would therefore be superior pilots. We too live in a 3D world, we just do not move as easily through all the planes of it as fins do. I suspect that cetacean echolocation might give them more of an advantage in 3D perception than their watery locomotion. They must be continuously aware of the positions of objects and relative distances in a way we can not even understand. At the tech level of BP however, space pilots are more computer nerds than stick jocks anyway. Most ships are *huge* and unwieldy and travel is based on computer navigated orbits that look like really long, really boring, really straight lines to any animal-pilot ; (. That's really too bad cause I too think the image of Orca Space Fighters (tm) is a *way* cool one. Jeff "Black and White Leader " Barber Biohazard Squadron *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:54 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - A World of Hurt Hey Chris, You write: hey, there's an idea for a sourcebook.......) >>>>Check this out this bit from our release schedule... World of Hurt World of Hurt offers Blue Planet players everything they need to take their BP adventures home - to Earth. This sourcebook describes the dark Earth of 2199, detailing her twisted sociopolitical landscape, her shattered ecology, her bleak past and her uncertain future. The book also describes the Solar System - Earth orbit, Luna, Mars and the Belt - bringing them into bright focus and offering endless adventure opportunities that, though a bit dryer, are no less dangerous. Later, Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.