From: BIOHZD@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 12:24 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Stuffed Orca Doll Hey Brain, *Competely off topic*, I used to volunteer at the New England Aquarium when I was in high school. Jeff Barber Biohazard Games *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Adam Lewis [adamswork@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 12:07 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Need advice. Hurray! --- Jason Hockley wrote: Roughly how long does Natural Law take to > play? > Considering people who have never seen the game > before? > > Jason It can be safely done in 3 hrs although there is a very good chance of it lasting 10 minutes. My only suggestion is to be aware of who controls the Marshall; that player can make or break your game. Good Luck! Let us know how it goes. AdamL __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Tun Kai Poh [t_poh@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 2:46 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Packages >Has anyone come up with packages for Hackers, BodyGuards, Cleaners("we're >in >dirty water! Call the Cleaner!" or for those Pulp Fiction Fans "Your >sending >the Wolf? Shit, thats all you had to say!") or Arceologists? I think that the Technician can cover hackers. The Thug, Gangster and Private Investigator can cover bodyguards and cleaners. As for Archaeologists, they don't get to have that much fun, since there's only been a little over a hundred years of human habitation so far. And it's a little hard to have archaeologists dig into the aborigine mystery because of the lack of info from Biohazard on the metaplot - either you make up something that will contradict the metaplot or you have the abos chase off the researchers with overwhelming nanotech firepower, like what usually happens in my scenarios involving abos. :) Now, with Poseidon's amazing biological history, I'd like to see some paleontologists running around racing to dig up fossils and such. Kinda like the "dinosaur wars" of the American Southwest last century. Now that would be a nifty campaign... Kai Poh Malaysian Lagomorph ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Chris Sakal [c_sakal@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 6:33 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Stereotypes (was: Introduction & Insurgency) >The Senate took the side of the American people. It's the responsibility of >the US government to ensure national security, and it does the country no >good to dismantle its arsenal in an era of nuclear proliferation. If we are >to discourage the use of WMDs in the next century, the US will have to >demonstrate both the capability and the will to destroy any nation or >organization that resorts to NBC warfare. We cannot do this with an anemic >arsenal of deteriorating warheads. And that is the argument that the congressmen who voted to defeat the treaty put forward, the only problem with it is that it has absolutely no basis. All of the military brass that I heard commenting on the issue thought that we would be able to maintain our arsenal in a state of readiness without testing, and it strikes me that they should probably know better than legislators. Even if you do retain the hard-line that we must be able to reduce the rest of the world to a pile of glowing, radioactive sludge to maintain national security (because we, you know, the good guys can naturally be trusted with that sort of power) it doesn't really bear on whether or not we should sign the test-ban treaty. The way things are now it's much easier than it would have been had we signed the treaty that more countries will develop nukes, thus making the possibility of our having to use ours greater. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: EndersWAR1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 8:11 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Packages In a message dated 11/12/99 10:58:35 PM Central Standard Time, Atti2dboy@aol.com writes: << The movie. I avoid the TV show. To tie this in with another current thread, Jean Reno is excellent as Victor the Cleaner. Of course, Harvey Keitel as Victor in PoNR was the best thing about that remake. "This one isn't dead." >> Harvey Keitel is just good, Period!But I agree with you, the TV show is a waste "Come on, Ceasar, if your going to be stupid, don't be half-assed stupid...Be stupid all the way!"-187 x) <---Dead Cyclops Enterprises "In the land of the two-eyed blind, the Dead Cyclops is king." EndersWAR1@aol.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: EndersWAR1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 8:09 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - A World of Hurt In a message dated 11/12/99 10:43:32 PM Central Standard Time, Atti2dboy@aol.com writes: << "We're going to need bigger guns, and more chocolate."-Dick Durkin, Stone's (Rutger Hauer) partner. :) >> LOL I had forgotten that one..LOL "Come on, Ceasar, if your going to be stupid, don't be half-assed stupid...Be stupid all the way!"-187 x) <---Dead Cyclops Enterprises "In the land of the two-eyed blind, the Dead Cyclops is king." EndersWAR1@aol.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: EndersWAR1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 8:13 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] -Packages In a message dated 11/12/99 11:04:57 PM Central Standard Time, Atti2dboy@aol.com writes: << Sure. If I can't play I might as well create. Shall we take this outside to preserve the surprise? >> Why of course.... "not at all, I am a natural voyeur"-Lifeforce "Come on, Ceasar, if your going to be stupid, don't be half-assed stupid...Be stupid all the way!"-187 x) <---Dead Cyclops Enterprises "In the land of the two-eyed blind, the Dead Cyclops is king." EndersWAR1@aol.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 9:02 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Landsrechts (was "Flame the newbie!") On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:49:07 -0500 Chris Sakal wrote: > > >Take a good look at Sammo Hung. > > > >Then watch one of his movies or his tv show. > But if you do watch the TV show, do yourself a favor and turn the > volume off ^_^. Actually I watched one episode of "Martial Law" (If I've remembered the title correctly.) and I would have to agree with that. Most of the films I've seen him in are pretty good though. Your point is taken. Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 9:03 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Kentucky (was: Stereotypes) On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:50:09 -0500 Brian Betty wrote: > Enderswar wrote: "Try Kentucky...where all the Jeff Foxworthy jokes are > truisms..." > > I'd say rather, "Try Kentucky ... where Jeff Foxworthy jokes make sense to > the hearer." I only appreciate JF because my aforementioned grandfather > hails from those parts. I'm sure I'm not the only person wondering this. Who is Jeff Foxworthy? Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 9:08 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Stereotypes (was: Introduction & Insurgency) On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:34:51 GMT Tun Kai Poh wrote: > >Many people in the US, France, Britain, Russia, > >India, Pakistan, China, Israel, and so on, would take issue with your > >statement. That is not an inconsequential portion of the global population. > > The leaders of France and Great Britain seemed to take issue with the > rejection of the treaty's ratification. I believe it had something to do > with sabotaging the moral high ground the nuke club would like to have so > that they can stop the proliferation of nuclear arms. I think the US was in > the minority on this vote. Well there are also a hell of a lot of people in France and Britain who want total nuclear disarmament. Opinions vary in all countries. Some of the people I heard the most protest from over the French nuclear testing in the Pacific were French people in Belgium. Everyone from students to dilpomats. I don't really think it's fair to ascribe particular opinions to entire nations full of people. > >Well, many Americans believe we do most of the UN's musclework and get > >dumped on by half the planet as a result. Would you pay for that kind of > >enmity? > > Okay, I give ya this: the US is big and rich. Of course you're going get > _some_ shit no matter what you do. But hey, if you guys really don't want > your vote in the General Council, can I have it? ;) I think part of the problem may be the dissolution of the Soviet Union. For a long time there were two big superpowers at odds, and the rest of the world carried on about their business accordingly. Since the USSR has started chaging though the USA is seen as the only superpower left by many, and there are an awful lot of people who like to see those in positions of power or authority fail simply on that basis alone. Of course, most of this is just uneducated guessing. Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 9:11 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: RE: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:33:19 -0600 "Heivilin, Jim" wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jason Hockley [mailto:jh39@ukc.ac.uk] > > Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency > > > > > Are you serious? You know there are places in > > France where a bottle of Coke will cost you 50 dollars just > > because it's from the USA and they don't really want people > > to buy it. And you wouldn't believe the resentment some of > > them have for your intervention in WW2! > > > On the other hand I've seen the monument they (the French) erected at > Malmedy. > > And when I visited France everyone was more than polite/helpful/kind. > > Well, except for the border guard. But then it was 2am in the middle of a > blizzard and he had to work so I can understand that. Depending on when this was they may have been having problems with terrorists too. When I pass through the borders there's usually little to mark it but a few empty buildings, but every now and then something happens and there will be guards stopping you and asking your business. On another note, I wonder if some of the French members of the list could comment on something for me. I have a few French friends in Brussels who claim that most of the world's opinion of France derives mostly from Pariseans. They usually spit on the floor at this point too. Is this a common opinion, or is it just the people I know? Mind you, one of them is from Alsace (Spelling correct?) and his family often says things like "We're French this decade. Maybe we'll be German again for a while soon though." Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 9:13 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:12:33 -0900 Auberon wrote: > > Nothing is just black or white. > > Which is, in fact, my major gripe about Americans; as a whole, we never > seem to realize that not everything is good or evil, but in fact 99+% of > things that ever will go on are firmly grey. Hey, now you appear to be talking about John Major! Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: EndersWAR1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 11:30 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Kentucky (was: Stereotypes) In a message dated 11/13/99 10:08:06 AM Central Standard Time, jh39@ukc.ac.uk writes: << Who is Jeff Foxworthy? >> Jeff Foxworthy is a comedian who does the "You might be a redneck if...." jokes "Come on, Ceasar, if your going to be stupid, don't be half-assed stupid...Be stupid all the way!"-187 x) <---Dead Cyclops Enterprises "In the land of the two-eyed blind, the Dead Cyclops is king." EndersWAR1@aol.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Jason Hockley [jh39@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 11:35 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Kentucky (was: Stereotypes) On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:30:03 EST EndersWAR1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/13/99 10:08:06 AM Central Standard Time, jh39@ukc.ac.uk > writes: > > << Who is Jeff Foxworthy? >> > Jeff Foxworthy is a comedian who does the "You might be a redneck if...." > jokes Ah. I can't say I've heard many of these jokes but as you say, they seem to be mostly relevant to people around those areas. Is this all he does though? It seems a little bit limited for a comedian if it is. Jason "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: EndersWAR1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 11:38 AM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Kentucky (was: Stereotypes) No..mostly he does "lets make of te southerners " humor "Come on, Ceasar, if your going to be stupid, don't be half-assed stupid...Be stupid all the way!"-187 x) <---Dead Cyclops Enterprises "In the land of the two-eyed blind, the Dead Cyclops is king." EndersWAR1@aol.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Auberon [jskln1@uas.alaska.edu] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 10:46 PM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Kentucky (was: Stereotypes) Jason Hockley wrote: > > I'm sure I'm not the only person wondering this. > Who is Jeff Foxworthy? If I remember my UK stereotypes right, imagine a Scot from the poorer bits of Edinborough (sp?) who makes Scot jokes. Same kinda thing; the southeast, with the possible exception of Florida, is considered the shallow end of the American gene pool - poor, stupid, and unable to be anything else. ***PLEASE NOTE*** I made no statements whatsoever about truth up there - only what stereotypes exist! *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Auberon [jskln1@uas.alaska.edu] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 10:48 PM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Frozen Dolphins? Brian Betty wrote: > > Jim wrote: "As for a deck or enclosure filled with water for fins. > Remember how heavy water is." More accurately, how massive water is, and mass translates into extra delta-v, which means more fuel, which also has mass... The problem is clear? > My issue is rather the opposite: imagine several tons of water weightless. > What a pain for a delphinoid / whale to try and breathe in! That too. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Auberon [jskln1@uas.alaska.edu] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 10:51 PM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Introduction and Insurgency "Heivilin, Jim" wrote: > > Not an easy language to learn. Primarily because (only my opinion) they > don't use the Roman alphabet. The Cyrillic alphabet has something like 28 > or 32 letters. All those extras seem to get in the way (at least when I was > trying to learn it). It is an interesting language though. Doesn't have > the same sense of time Latin based languages do. I didn't find that a difficulty at all; a few phenomes happen further down the throat, but the verbs are WAY easier than French (for a native English speaker, anyway). > Jim "I had a Russian girlfriend for awhile, does that count?" Not around here; half my friends have had Russian girlfriends, but maybe they're scarcer Outside (the Alaskan term for the contiguous(sp?) - or "lower" - 48) There's your lesson in Alaskan for today :-> *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From: Auberon [jskln1@uas.alaska.edu] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 10:55 PM To: blue_planet@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Stereotypes (was: Introduction & Insurgency) Tun Kai Poh wrote: > > Robert said: > >It seems the countries most open to nuclear disarmament are those which do > >not possess nuclear weapons. > > It seems that the countries most open to nuclear proliferation ALSO do not > possess nuclear weapons. Like Iraq, Iran, North Korea. How nice to know that > Senate took their side this time, instead of the 154 other countries who > voted against. Yeah, love to be in the same moral stance as a crowd like that. I bet Qaddafi was with us too, and other savory characters. > >Many people in the US, France, Britain, Russia, > >India, Pakistan, China, Israel, and so on, would take issue with your > >statement. That is not an inconsequential portion of the global population. > > The leaders of France and Great Britain seemed to take issue with the > rejection of the treaty's ratification. I believe it had something to do > with sabotaging the moral high ground the nuke club would like to have so > that they can stop the proliferation of nuclear arms. I think the US was in > the minority on this vote. Thoroughly. We ploughed ahead with our usual attitude, though. Specifically, "We'll do it the way we want to because we CAN!" A lot of people determining American foreign policy don't ever get past "Might Makes Right!" (When we're doing it; other people doing it is Bad. So we bomb them, and that's Good.) > >Well, many Americans believe we do most of the UN's musclework and get > >dumped on by half the planet as a result. Would you pay for that kind of > >enmity? > > Okay, I give ya this: the US is big and rich. Of course you're going get > _some_ shit no matter what you do. But hey, if you guys really don't want > your vote in the General Council, can I have it? ;) Moreover, we can AFFORD to supply troops and still pay dues. The Australians don't bitch, and they show up for all the UN's little parties. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.