From dreamwvr@global.co.za Thu Jan 8 15:53:55 1998 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:55:28 +0200 From: dreamwvr Reply-To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Why Cetaceans? >Maybe there is some sort of quota that a compnay has to meet with regards >to hiring cetaceans... like an "equal opportunity" type of thing which is >happening now. ;-) Nice sweet idea. But we must realise we're on a new world here and the rules are ill-defined. As far as public popularity is concerned: The number of cetaceans in existence is not great. I very much doubt the demand satisfies the supplies and cost of supplying so few cetaceans with specialised equipment. Maybe for a small business, but a large company on a frontier with so many possibilities, would be risking wasting its resources. It could do better to allocate its resources elsewehere. Personally, I am still of the opinion that cetaceans are a waste of time in an office environment. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From dreamwvr@global.co.za Thu Jan 8 15:53:55 1998 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 01:14:49 +0200 From: dreamwvr Reply-To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Profiling I have recently read over character creation. On the whole, I really enjoyed it.I think its refreshing and approached well. Profiling is nice and except for one detail, I like it. What I am confused about it the players choice of Education. I'm wonderng how other GM's feel about a character being able to choose their Education. Why would a person choose no education for their character and get no skill points for it? In theory, a good roleplayer would ignore the skill point advantage. However I feel that its like dangling a carrot infront of a donkey, would you expect the donkey to leave the carrot? I invision groups having all characters who are Professors and then went into the Military. Munchkinism? There should be none, this is a hardcore system. I'm looking for two things: 1) Game writers response 2) Any suggestions *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From dreamwvr@global.co.za Thu Jan 8 15:53:55 1998 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 01:19:39 +0200 From: dreamwvr Reply-To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Skill roles I'm pretty sure I understand the skill system even though it isn't clear. But I'd like somebody to please explain it for me in detail, as if I didn't know. Also, where are the attribute mods used and how? *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From awillia8@wvu.edu Thu Jan 8 15:53:55 1998 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:30:27 -0500 From: Ghost Reply-To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Sea Lions... finally. James Kiley wrote: > My only real objection here is that it seems unlikely that a creature > with > a Scale 4 Intellect is even going to get an Undergraduate Degree. I > work > with a lot of Scale 5 Intellect people who probably couldn't manage an > > undergrad degree. :) > > jk > I wanted to let players at least be able to achieve that much. Also, as I noted, it is extremely rare, and only the most dedicated and intelligent can get even that much. Also, you forget about which degrees a sea lion is even eligible for. Underwater Basketweaving, anyone? : ) Seriously, though, I'll clarify that. I doubt even the best and brightest can be a Civil Engineer or Physicist. Oh, and the link I gave at the bottom of the message is incorrect. Try this one instead: http://www.newwave.net/~rlabwms/Ghost/ -- "Trouble is a runaway freight train without a cowcatcher." >> Ghost << *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From awillia8@wvu.edu Thu Jan 8 15:53:55 1998 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:18:03 -0500 From: Ghost Reply-To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: [BLUE PLANET] - Oops... I tried to send this correction once before, but since I didn't get it, I guess it didn't go through... The address I gave for my homepage in the Sea Lion post was incorrect. The correct address is: http://www.newwave.net/~rlabwms/Ghost/ Here you can find the details on the sea lions that weren't posted. -- "Trouble is a runaway freight train without a cowcatcher." >> Ghost << *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From yu143298@YorkU.CA Thu Jan 8 15:53:55 1998 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 01:41:44 -0500 (EST) From: JASON KUCHERAWY Reply-To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Why Cetaceans? > I'm trying to understand exactly why a Corp would want to hire Cetaceans > for office work. I can see the obvious advantage of hiring them for marine > work. But the cost of office work - you need special machinery, special > quarters, special equipement, special dietary requirements and they aren't > even as intellectually inclined (on average) as humans. > > So why Cetaceans? The costs way outweight the benefits. You could get a > human to do the job cheaper and better. As an investment decision, I'd > rather skip having a Cetacean employee. Am I missing something here? Maybe there is some sort of quota that a compnay has to meet with regards to hiring cetaceans... like an "equal opportunity" type of thing which is happening now. ;-) -Jason *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From tenzil@io.com Thu Jan 8 15:53:55 1998 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 08:49:50 -0600 (CST) From: James Kiley Reply-To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Profiling On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, dreamwvr wrote: > I'm wonderng how other GM's feel about a character being able to choose > their Education. > Why would a person choose no education for their character and get no skill > points for it? In theory, a good roleplayer would ignore the skill point > advantage. However I feel that its like dangling a carrot infront of a > donkey, would you expect the donkey to leave the carrot? First, it has always been my impression that players in Blue Planet should come up with characters in conjunction with the gamemaster, and that they should be reasonable, intelligent people when they do so. One of the overriding themes of BP's character generation system seems to be that it is up to the players and GM, together, to come up with a campaign concept (roving do-gooders, corporate security agents, ecoterrorists, wild-haired nuclear physicist-neurosurgeon-rock stars, or whatever). If a character has a level of education that is outrageous within the theme that the players and GM agree on, it is up to the GM to veto that. That is why Blue Planet doesn't have a point-based character generation system (take X points for skills, Y points for skill groups, pick any one edge, and so on), IMHO. jk now considering a BP buckaroo banzai campaign *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From nezach@earthlink.net Thu Jan 8 15:53:55 1998 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 12:50:25 -0800 From: Nezach Reply-To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Why Cetaceans? dreamwvr wrote: > > I'm trying to understand exactly why a Corp would want to hire Cetaceans > for office work. I can see the obvious advantage of hiring them for marine > work. But the cost of office work - you need special machinery, special > quarters, special equipement, special dietary requirements and they aren't > even as intellectually inclined (on average) as humans. > > So why Cetaceans? The costs way outweight the benefits. You could get a > human to do the job cheaper and better. As an investment decision, I'd > rather skip having a Cetacean employee. Am I missing something here? > > Why hire a Cetacean for office work? Hello all, I thought I would de-lurk and give my 0.02 cs on the subject... I assume that you are thinking of the cost of having special water habitat spaces for the cetacen workers would sour most corporations to hiring them, but what if they didn't do this? I would think that any cetacean hired by a corp for an office type job would work through the net. People "telecommunicate to work" today and in 2199 I would think this would be much more common. A fin would just have to log on to the company net and do work in a virtual office. Meetings would be done via video phone or whatever. I would think most corps would have their employees (fin or otherwise) work this way. Hope this helps a bit. -- Enjoy, Ndege * no .sig follows * no disclaimer follows * __________________________________________ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message. From flannelgod@hotmail.com Thu Jan 8 15:53:55 1998 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 15:59:27 PST From: Paul Bryson Reply-To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM To: blue_planet@MPGN.COM Subject: Re: [BLUE PLANET] - Why Cetaceans? - dreamwvr wrote: > > I'm trying to understand exactly why a Corp would want to hire Cetaceans > for office work. I can see the obvious advantage of hiring them for marine > work. But the cost of office work - you need special machinery, special > quarters, special equipement, special dietary requirements and they aren't > even as intellectually inclined (on average) as humans. > > So why Cetaceans? The costs way outweight the benefits. You could get a > human to do the job cheaper and better. As an investment decision, I'd > rather skip having a Cetacean employee. Am I missing something here? > > Why hire a Cetacean for office work? Ndege wrote: > I thought I would de-lurk and give my 0.02 cs on the subject... >I assume that you are thinking of the cost of having special water >habitat spaces for the cetacen workers would sour most corporations >to >hiring them, but what if they didn't do this? I would think that any >cetacean hired by a corp for an office type job would work through >the >net. People "telecommunicate to work" today and in 2199 I would >think >this would be much more common. A fin would just have to log on to >the company net and do work in a virtual office. Meetings would be >done >via video phone or whatever. I would think most corps would have >their >employees (fin or otherwise) work this way. hello everyone: as an addition, maybe some mods to the CICADA drones could allow for typing and whatnot. just a thought.:) Paul Bryson <-> Flannel God cedant arma flannelae~let arms yield to the flannel ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe blue_planet' as the body of the message.